Comments on: iManila jumps to #1 Top Paid iPhone App http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/ Philippines, Tech Reviews and Blog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:21:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: How many Mobile Apps have you bought? | YugaTech | Philippines, Technology News & Reviews http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-2/#comment-335751 How many Mobile Apps have you bought? | YugaTech | Philippines, Technology News & Reviews Sat, 16 Oct 2010 08:22:25 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-335751 [...] app that comes to mind would be iManila which has been consistently on the top paid apps for some time. Not sure how much the developer [...] [...] app that comes to mind would be iManila which has been consistently on the top paid apps for some time. Not sure how much the developer [...]

]]> By: Greg Reichow http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-2/#comment-327997 Greg Reichow Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:48:51 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-327997 netmonitor- sorry to hear that your disappointed with iManila. It was not intended to be a map application like google maps. (I just don't have access to the GPS data for the businesses) It is intended to help provide easy access to the Philippine yellow pages as Google continues to be incomplete for the Philippines. Unfortunately, not all businesses are listed in the Yellow Pages either and possibly this is why it was not finding what you were looking for. If you can send me the searches you tried, I can work with the data provider to understand why it was missing. Sorry again that iManila did not meet your expectations. I can be contacted at support //you know the symbol// mangocode.com netmonitor- sorry to hear that your disappointed with iManila. It was not intended to be a map application like google maps. (I just don’t have access to the GPS data for the businesses) It is intended to help provide easy access to the Philippine yellow pages as Google continues to be incomplete for the Philippines. Unfortunately, not all businesses are listed in the Yellow Pages either and possibly this is why it was not finding what you were looking for. If you can send me the searches you tried, I can work with the data provider to understand why it was missing. Sorry again that iManila did not meet your expectations. I can be contacted at support //you know the symbol// mangocode.com

]]> By: netmonitor http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-2/#comment-327891 netmonitor Tue, 07 Sep 2010 01:04:32 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-327891 a USELESS APP! i downloaded it and it doesnt seem to give me the info I need. WASTE OF MONEY if i may say so. Not even a map to use. To claim its the top paid app in the Phils is just a worthless effort into marketing it. Dont buy this app! a USELESS APP! i downloaded it and it doesnt seem to give me the info I need. WASTE OF MONEY if i may say so. Not even a map to use. To claim its the top paid app in the Phils is just a worthless effort into marketing it. Dont buy this app!

]]> By: emokatorse http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-2/#comment-269452 emokatorse Sun, 10 May 2009 07:36:19 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-269452 im just wondering if it is for the world or in the phil. only? im just wondering if it is for the world or in the phil. only?

]]> By: avisala http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-2/#comment-263332 avisala Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:19:17 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-263332 Guys, check this out. Another pinoy app "The Filipino News" is currently in the Top 20 Paid Apps under News category. Guys, check this out.

Another pinoy app “The Filipino News” is currently in the Top 20 Paid Apps under News category.

]]> By: tops http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-258905 tops Sat, 14 Feb 2009 03:02:48 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-258905 Hindi ba ma-sue sila for copyright dahil sa name? Mayroong iManila of the same name na IT company dito sa Pinas. I used to work there as a tech, and un din ang product name ng services ng company such as prepaid, internet at technical services. Hindi ba ma-sue sila for copyright dahil sa name? Mayroong iManila of the same name na IT company dito sa Pinas. I used to work there as a tech, and un din ang product name ng services ng company such as prepaid, internet at technical services.

]]> By: Miguel http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-257244 Miguel Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:37:56 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-257244 Here's another Pinoy made web app: <a href="http://www.pikitchen.com/flash-me.html" rel="nofollow">Flash Me from PiKitchen</a>. Here’s another Pinoy made web app: Flash Me from PiKitchen.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256893 Patrick Fri, 23 Jan 2009 02:59:26 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256893 Nope, i don't think it's hard to be successful. Working with integrity - that's difficult. To be fair with Greg, he did take down the app and he recognized his fault. While his intentions were noble, the method he used was really flawed. EYP owns the data and he should've asked for their permission. There are a number of local web publishers out there investing a lot of time, money and effort in maintaining their websites and their work needs to be protected at the least. We're looking forward to your next app Greg. Nope, i don’t think it’s hard to be successful. Working with integrity – that’s difficult. To be fair with Greg, he did take down the app and he recognized his fault. While his intentions were noble, the method he used was really flawed. EYP owns the data and he should’ve asked for their permission. There are a number of local web publishers out there investing a lot of time, money and effort in maintaining their websites and their work needs to be protected at the least. We’re looking forward to your next app Greg.

]]> By: Edward http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256867 Edward Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:12:08 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256867 If Greg's IManila app didn't reach No.1, would all these have happened? It's hard to be "successful" in the Philippines. If Greg’s IManila app didn’t reach No.1, would all these have happened? It’s hard to be “successful” in the Philippines.

]]> By: Greg Reichow http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256862 Greg Reichow Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:34:56 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256862 Andre- I am 100% in agreement with your earlier post. I am a big supporter of not using DRM to protect content. DRM punishes the honest (makes it cumbersome) and does not really affect the dishonest (they will always find a way). Your point is very correct that I should not have used their data without their permission. Legal or not, it is not ethical. I screwed up and it is clear to me now. I made the error of thinking I was using "free data" and just selling the application. Yet, obviously upon reflection, the code has no value without the data! This was why I pulled the application immediately after some reflection after reading the earlier posts and coming to this conclusion. The idea of integrating maps is very good. I guess one good thing that has come from this is that I have received a significant amount of information on other sources of data I can use to get maps + addresses. If I can work out an up-front arrangement with one of these services, I hope to continue to develop this application and possibly put back on the app store. Andre-

I am 100% in agreement with your earlier post. I am a big supporter of not using DRM to protect content. DRM punishes the honest (makes it cumbersome) and does not really affect the dishonest (they will always find a way). Your point is very correct that I should not have used their data without their permission. Legal or not, it is not ethical. I screwed up and it is clear to me now. I made the error of thinking I was using “free data” and just selling the application. Yet, obviously upon reflection, the code has no value without the data! This was why I pulled the application immediately after some reflection after reading the earlier posts and coming to this conclusion.

The idea of integrating maps is very good. I guess one good thing that has come from this is that I have received a significant amount of information on other sources of data I can use to get maps + addresses. If I can work out an up-front arrangement with one of these services, I hope to continue to develop this application and possibly put back on the app store.

]]> By: Andre Marcelo-Tanner http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256733 Andre Marcelo-Tanner Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:26:13 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256733 typo *create* a better GPS typo *create* a better GPS

]]> By: Andre Marcelo-Tanner http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256732 Andre Marcelo-Tanner Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:25:30 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256732 anyway here's a thought, use openstreetmap.org.ph data, and great a better GPS iphone app of metro manila, combine that with a search form that brings users to the EYP website where they can view the search results and then make some way to capture the address from there at the option of the user and send them back to the streetmap to show where exactly on the map is the place located. There are probably still some legal issues there but atleast you're not scraping the data. anyway here’s a thought, use openstreetmap.org.ph data, and great a better GPS iphone app of metro manila, combine that with a search form that brings users to the EYP website where they can view the search results and then make some way to capture the address from there at the option of the user and send them back to the streetmap to show where exactly on the map is the place located. There are probably still some legal issues there but atleast you’re not scraping the data.

]]> By: Andre Marcelo-Tanner http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256729 Andre Marcelo-Tanner Wed, 21 Jan 2009 03:56:03 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256729 its not about protecting the data, its about legal use and fair use. greg is profiting off data he didnt collect himself and data which is not free to sell, while it is freely available on the EYP website, it is not free to sell. You cant just take anything you see and sell it, its like piracy. Anyway its true DPC could shut down greg at any time via legal action or whatever, I think it is safest to take it down, work with DPC, or give it away for free, still then theres the issue with the legality of that. In this age of information technology we cant go about protecting all our data from theft by rootkits and DRM and what not, its just too impossible. Thats why its better that they focus on implementing the laws of IP and teaching people the ethics of IP. its not about protecting the data, its about legal use and fair use. greg is profiting off data he didnt collect himself and data which is not free to sell, while it is freely available on the EYP website, it is not free to sell. You cant just take anything you see and sell it, its like piracy. Anyway its true DPC could shut down greg at any time via legal action or whatever, I think it is safest to take it down, work with DPC, or give it away for free, still then theres the issue with the legality of that. In this age of information technology we cant go about protecting all our data from theft by rootkits and DRM and what not, its just too impossible. Thats why its better that they focus on implementing the laws of IP and teaching people the ethics of IP.

]]> By: Ceasar http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256701 Ceasar Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:29:42 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256701 Luk4, Eyp and other online accessible database has chosen to make their database available online exposing it to all possible use and exploits. They need to protect their data if they don't want unwarranted access. Greg here had the talent to make this database useful to mobile users at super bargain cost and most of all giving us Filipinos something to be proud of. Luk4, Eyp and other online accessible database has chosen to make their database available online exposing it to all possible use and exploits. They need to protect their data if they don’t want unwarranted access.

Greg here had the talent to make this database useful to mobile users at super bargain cost and most of all giving us Filipinos something to be proud of.

]]> By: Greg R http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256624 Greg R Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:06:58 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256624 I am working on establishing collaboration through an update to the application. My original post was not to complain about the piracy. It was intended to make the point that some people may find value, and pay for that value, and I would be there to support them. While I may disagree that using a web browser to open a page and reformat the data into an easier to use display with easier integration (which is what iManila does) is different than software piracy, I do recognize your point. While iManila access the data in the exact same way (and with the same page hits recorded) as an end user using a standard browser, there is the loss advertisement visibility. To your point, they have not agreed to this. I will be requesting the application be removed from iTunes tonight. If and when the collaboration with luk4 or another online service provider is complete, I will re-consider putting it back for sale. Thanks for your frank and honest feedback. Greg I am working on establishing collaboration through an update to the application.

My original post was not to complain about the piracy. It was intended to make the point that some people may find value, and pay for that value, and I would be there to support them.

While I may disagree that using a web browser to open a page and reformat the data into an easier to use display with easier integration (which is what iManila does) is different than software piracy, I do recognize your point. While iManila access the data in the exact same way (and with the same page hits recorded) as an end user using a standard browser, there is the loss advertisement visibility. To your point, they have not agreed to this.

I will be requesting the application be removed from iTunes tonight. If and when the collaboration with luk4 or another online service provider is complete, I will re-consider putting it back for sale.

Thanks for your frank and honest feedback.

Greg

]]> By: Greg http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256623 Greg Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:59:09 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256623 Patrick & AhmedF- I am working on establishing collaboration through an update to the application. My original post was not to complain about the piracy. It was intended to make the point that some people may find value, and pay for that value, and I would be there to support them. While I may disagree that using a web browser to open a page and reformat the data into an easier to use display with easier integration (which is what iManila does) is different than software piracy, I do recognize your point. While iManila access the data in the exact same way (and with the same page hits recorded) as an end user using a standard browser, there is the loss advertisement visibility. To your point, they have not agreed to this. I will be requesting the application be removed from iTunes tonight. If and when the collaboration with luk4 or another online service provider is complete, I will re-consider putting it back for sale. Thanks for your frank and honest feedback. Greg Patrick & AhmedF-

I am working on establishing collaboration through an update to the application.

My original post was not to complain about the piracy. It was intended to make the point that some people may find value, and pay for that value, and I would be there to support them.

While I may disagree that using a web browser to open a page and reformat the data into an easier to use display with easier integration (which is what iManila does) is different than software piracy, I do recognize your point. While iManila access the data in the exact same way (and with the same page hits recorded) as an end user using a standard browser, there is the loss advertisement visibility. To your point, they have not agreed to this.

I will be requesting the application be removed from iTunes tonight. If and when the collaboration with luk4 or another online service provider is complete, I will re-consider putting it back for sale.

Thanks for your frank and honest feedback.

Greg

]]> By: AhmedF http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256588 AhmedF Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:18:02 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256588 Hehe - evidently in Greg's world, Luk4's acquisition of data (and the continuation of this acquisition) does not take any real time (especially away from their family or work). I find it rather convenient that you gripe about unauthorized distribution of software, and yet you perform unauthorized distribution of data. Even more telling is the fact that distributors rarely ever make money from what they do - and yet you are more than happy to charge $1.99. Sweet! Hehe – evidently in Greg’s world, Luk4′s acquisition of data (and the continuation of this acquisition) does not take any real time (especially away from their family or work).

I find it rather convenient that you gripe about unauthorized distribution of software, and yet you perform unauthorized distribution of data. Even more telling is the fact that distributors rarely ever make money from what they do – and yet you are more than happy to charge $1.99.

Sweet!

]]> By: Patrick http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256579 Patrick Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:34:01 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256579 Scraping data without the publisher's knowledge or permission is just the same as piracy. I'm pretty sure that the guys at Luk4 are also working hard in maintaining/updating their listings and directories. Why didn't you consider collaborating with them instead? Scraping data without the publisher’s knowledge or permission is just the same as piracy. I’m pretty sure that the guys at Luk4 are also working hard in maintaining/updating their listings and directories. Why didn’t you consider collaborating with them instead?

]]> By: Greg Reichow http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256572 Greg Reichow Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:23:10 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256572 The iPhone Paid top ranking is done by the individual iPhone store. In this case it is just #1 on the iPhone Philippines store and not overall. As a result, sales are far less than 10,000. I know, I am the developer. Yes, the data as indicated on the web page does just simply come from luk4.com. And yes, you can save your $1.99 and just browse to that web page. Yet, while doing this myself, I found that what I really wanted was a streamlined native application to this data. I also wanted an easier method to save directly into the address book. Hence, this was the reason I made this application. I initially made this just for my own use, but decided to offer it on the iTunes store to see if others would like the same tool. And as for the cracks (thanks Jiro for posting), it is your integrity that will drive this decision. Developing this application further (and continuing to do so) takes real time away from my family and work. Piracy is an unfortunate part of the software business and is a strong motivation to stop developing further applications. Yet, I intend to support the honest users that do have the integrity to purchase the application. So, I will not be stopping the development. If you have other feedback or suggestions for this application, please let me know. I can be reached at support@mangocode.com. Thanks. The iPhone Paid top ranking is done by the individual iPhone store. In this case it is just #1 on the iPhone Philippines store and not overall. As a result, sales are far less than 10,000. I know, I am the developer.

Yes, the data as indicated on the web page does just simply come from luk4.com. And yes, you can save your $1.99 and just browse to that web page. Yet, while doing this myself, I found that what I really wanted was a streamlined native application to this data. I also wanted an easier method to save directly into the address book. Hence, this was the reason I made this application. I initially made this just for my own use, but decided to offer it on the iTunes store to see if others would like the same tool.

And as for the cracks (thanks Jiro for posting), it is your integrity that will drive this decision. Developing this application further (and continuing to do so) takes real time away from my family and work. Piracy is an unfortunate part of the software business and is a strong motivation to stop developing further applications. Yet, I intend to support the honest users that do have the integrity to purchase the application. So, I will not be stopping the development.

If you have other feedback or suggestions for this application, please let me know. I can be reached at support@mangocode.com. Thanks.

]]> By: Miguel http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256564 Miguel Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:54:13 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256564 Better, LUK4 and other portals should develop their own apps. Better, LUK4 and other portals should develop their own apps.

]]> By: AhmedF http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256563 AhmedF Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:35:07 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256563 This site does nothing more than scrape Luk4.com - those guys could shut this app down in 24 hours if they wanted to. This site does nothing more than scrape Luk4.com – those guys could shut this app down in 24 hours if they wanted to.

]]> By: Andre Marcelo-Tanner http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256549 Andre Marcelo-Tanner Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:08:28 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256549 why not just use the iphone browser and access eyp.ph? i assume the imanila app also does searches online why not just use the iphone browser and access eyp.ph? i assume the imanila app also does searches online

]]> By: JIRO YAN http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256545 JIRO YAN Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:47:03 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256545 You can download iManila <del datetime="2009-01-26T13:08:54+00:00">for FREE at *******</del> for jailbroken iPhone. *** Link removed per request of developer. - yuga You can download iManila for FREE at ******* for jailbroken iPhone.

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]]> By: TopAsianWoman http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256542 TopAsianWoman Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:31:29 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256542 great app for my iphone! great app for my iphone!

]]> By: iManila jumps to #1 Top Paid iPhone App | dralnuX.com http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256541 iManila jumps to #1 Top Paid iPhone App | dralnuX.com Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:07:10 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256541 [...] It is estimated that in order to be on the top spot for paid iPhone Apps, you need at least 10,000 downloads (I have this hunch though the the Top Apps are listed by country of origin of registered users. If so, iManila is the #1 Paid App downloaded in the Philippines). Full Story [...] [...] It is estimated that in order to be on the top spot for paid iPhone Apps, you need at least 10,000 downloads (I have this hunch though the the Top Apps are listed by country of origin of registered users. If so, iManila is the #1 Paid App downloaded in the Philippines). Full Story [...]

]]> By: Huan22 http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256529 Huan22 Sun, 18 Jan 2009 05:00:38 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256529 Sorry, i typed 42 instead of 46. My bad Sorry, i typed 42 instead of 46. My bad

]]> By: Huan22 http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256528 Huan22 Sun, 18 Jan 2009 04:59:42 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256528 Considering how much the iManila costs, it is quite a bargain. For just PhP92(assuming the exchange rate is PhP42==$1) you could access a lot of information, from where to dine to the place where to buy that exotic plant. Considering how much the iManila costs, it is quite a bargain. For just PhP92(assuming the exchange rate is PhP42==$1) you could access a lot of information, from where to dine to the place where to buy that exotic plant.

]]> By: sleepy http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256526 sleepy Sun, 18 Jan 2009 04:36:35 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256526 Well another hurray for Filipinos! Well another hurray for Filipinos!

]]> By: Miguel http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256525 Miguel Sun, 18 Jan 2009 04:33:24 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256525 So it may not be the #1 paid app overall... but it shows that Pinoys are willing to pay for iPhone apps, no? So it may not be the #1 paid app overall… but it shows that Pinoys are willing to pay for iPhone apps, no?

]]> By: kates http://www.yugatech.com/anything-apple/imanila-jumps-to-top-paid-iphone-app/comment-page-1/#comment-256519 kates Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:21:50 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=6327#comment-256519 the rankings are sorted by country. the same with comments. only those made from the same country as where you're viewing the app store will appear. the rankings are sorted by country. the same with comments. only those made from the same country as where you’re viewing the app store will appear.

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