Comments on: Google Data Center in Malaysia; why not the Philippines? http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/ Philippines, Technology News & Reviews Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:28:20 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: leerah http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-286599 leerah Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:29:54 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-286599 how come brazil has a data center? could you please explain why? how come brazil has a data center? could you please explain why?

]]> By: Vadim Berman http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-239679 Vadim Berman Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:24:04 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-239679 * Brownouts * Only La Salle has a dedicated course on natural language processing, which is what Google is about * Brownouts
* Only La Salle has a dedicated course on natural language processing, which is what Google is about

]]> By: Berlin http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-214358 Berlin Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:36:31 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-214358 You really think Goog and MS are worried about cost of labor? "Google recently confirmed that it has purchased 520 acres in Goose Creek on the South Carolina coast for a $750 million data center project." Goog and MS are building their new DC's next to hydroelectric damns. They require so much space and power and we can't provide that. Land in the midwest is still cheap, btw. http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2007/Jan/20/google_planning_two_huge_sc_facilities.html You really think Goog and MS are worried about cost of labor?

“Google recently confirmed that it has purchased 520 acres in Goose Creek on the South Carolina coast for a $750 million data center project.”

Goog and MS are building their new DC’s next to hydroelectric damns. They require so much space and power and we can’t provide that. Land in the midwest is still cheap, btw.

http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2007/Jan/20/google_planning_two_huge_sc_facilities.html

]]> By: yuga http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-213686 yuga Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:55:03 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-213686 If the recent exodus of big-name companies from the Philippines is any indication, I think these all boils down to net cost of operation. The biggest benefit of putting up a business unit in the country is lower cot of labor and stuff. Now that China and other neighboring countries such as Vietnam are as competitive, everybody's moving there. If the recent exodus of big-name companies from the Philippines is any indication, I think these all boils down to net cost of operation. The biggest benefit of putting up a business unit in the country is lower cot of labor and stuff. Now that China and other neighboring countries such as Vietnam are as competitive, everybody’s moving there.

]]> By: Miguel http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-213482 Miguel Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:31:04 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-213482 Jerome, Not a direct comparison. A datacenter is not a fab. A fab needs an order of magnitude more cleanliness than a data center. You don't need to wear protective clothing to work in a DC. Jerome,
Not a direct comparison. A datacenter is not a fab. A fab needs an order of magnitude more cleanliness than a data center. You don’t need to wear protective clothing to work in a DC.

]]> By: Jerome http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-213262 Jerome Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:29:57 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-213262 There's a reason why Intel didn't put the whole wafer fab in the Philippines and instead opted for packaging and moved everything to Malaysia (Penang for that matter). Dust. We couldn't achieve a solid clean room environment. What more could a high capacity datacenter. There’s a reason why Intel didn’t put the whole wafer fab in the Philippines and instead opted for packaging and moved everything to Malaysia (Penang for that matter).

Dust. We couldn’t achieve a solid clean room environment. What more could a high capacity datacenter.

]]> By: JP Loh http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-213214 JP Loh Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:22:45 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-213214 +1 for infrastructure issues too. Also, it's too risky here. Too much natural disasters and the economy is not that stable yet. My bet for the best candidate is Japan with Taiwan as the second choice. "A lot of foreign IT companies have a large segment of operations stationed here" -- not to mention that most of these segments are not IT-related. I think we still have a shortage of qualified IT professionals here. What more with R&D? +1 for infrastructure issues too.

Also, it’s too risky here. Too much natural disasters and the economy is not that stable yet.

My bet for the best candidate is Japan with Taiwan as the second choice.

“A lot of foreign IT companies have a large segment of operations stationed here” — not to mention that most of these segments are not IT-related.

I think we still have a shortage of qualified IT professionals here. What more with R&D?

]]> By: J http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-213111 J Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:54:37 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-213111 I'd go with Infrastructure issue. Yes, as posted above, ours is quite weak compared to others. (read: expensive) I’d go with Infrastructure issue. Yes, as posted above, ours is quite weak compared to others. (read: expensive)

]]> By: vance http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-213067 vance Mon, 04 Feb 2008 04:50:23 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-213067 well I'm not surprised... even if we are included in the list; will still be the last choice. well I’m not surprised… even if we are included in the list; will still be the last choice.

]]> By: Rico http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-213056 Rico Mon, 04 Feb 2008 03:22:32 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-213056 Haha! I should've sent a buck. Oh well I guess you could buy a bottle of pop cola instead with that amount. Maybe this should be a trend in the blogging world, if you liked an article, send the author a buck. Just like tipping in restos. Haha! I should’ve sent a buck. Oh well I guess you could buy a bottle of pop cola instead with that amount.

Maybe this should be a trend in the blogging world, if you liked an article, send the author a buck. Just like tipping in restos.

]]> By: yuga http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-213054 yuga Mon, 04 Feb 2008 03:15:29 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-213054 @ Rico - thanks for the beer! But Paypal took most of it away: Total Amount: $0.50 USD Fee Amount: -$0.32 USD Net Amount: $0.18 USD *haha* @ Rico – thanks for the beer! But Paypal took most of it away:

Total Amount: $0.50 USD
Fee Amount: -$0.32 USD
Net Amount: $0.18 USD

*haha*

]]> By: Eugene http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-213053 Eugene Mon, 04 Feb 2008 01:55:49 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-213053 Sigh. Despite the fact that Singapore's government is a bit repressive like China's (they also rank quite low in press freedom), it's an undeniable fact that Singapore is powerhouse investment site for IT and other high-tech industries like biotechnology. Fortunately, the Philippines can hold its own because primarily of our English capability and affinity with Western culture. That and that Filipinos are perceptively more creative than our neighbors. Yet, it all depends on how our government and the industry can market our country. Sigh. Despite the fact that Singapore’s government is a bit repressive like China’s (they also rank quite low in press freedom), it’s an undeniable fact that Singapore is powerhouse investment site for IT and other high-tech industries like biotechnology. Fortunately, the Philippines can hold its own because primarily of our English capability and affinity with Western culture. That and that Filipinos are perceptively more creative than our neighbors. Yet, it all depends on how our government and the industry can market our country.

]]> By: Miguel http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-213041 Miguel Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:19:37 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-213041 Singapore is still more attractive for an R&D center - for the people there, and the people they can hire from the region (including Pinoys!) But, the <a href="http://www.google.com/support/jobs/bin/answer.py?answer=58461" rel="nofollow">engineering center director position is still open</a>! Singapore is still more attractive for an R&D center – for the people there, and the people they can hire from the region (including Pinoys!)

But, the engineering center director position is still open!

]]> By: Andre http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-213037 Andre Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:23:04 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-213037 Huseyn needs to switch to Western Union Quick Cash Huseyn needs to switch to Western Union Quick Cash

]]> By: Andre http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-213036 Andre Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:20:49 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-213036 Because people keep trying to take over the government by taking over hotels. Who wants to store data in a unstable country. Because people keep trying to take over the government by taking over hotels. Who wants to store data in a unstable country.

]]> By: Rico http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-213035 Rico Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:56:58 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-213035 BTW Yuga, I just bought you a beer. I think 50 cents (USD) would be enough to buy you a bottle of san mig light :) BTW Yuga, I just bought you a beer. I think 50 cents (USD) would be enough to buy you a bottle of san mig light :)

]]> By: Rico http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-213034 Rico Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:51:57 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-213034 I agree with Eugene above. Yuga, I think R&D's (hardware) infrastructure is simpler compared to the requirements of a DC. We can definitely host an R&D center here infra-wise, what we need though is a sustainable pool of talent. But with the ever growing trend of homegrown talent leaving our shorelines for more lucrative opportunities abroad, our chances of attracting R&D is getting slimmer and slimmer. I agree with Eugene above.

Yuga, I think R&D’s (hardware) infrastructure is simpler compared to the requirements of a DC. We can definitely host an R&D center here infra-wise, what we need though is a sustainable pool of talent. But with the ever growing trend of homegrown talent leaving our shorelines for more lucrative opportunities abroad, our chances of attracting R&D is getting slimmer and slimmer.

]]> By: Erwin http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/comment-page-1/#comment-213031 Erwin Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:25:38 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/gooooogle/google-data-center-in-malaysia-why-not-the-philippines/#comment-213031 A Google DC would be nice... But I have to agree with Migs & Derek; you would need competitively priced and Telco independent DCs & carriers, peering (interconnection) arrangements between local ISPs and a redundant local and international network in place before the big guys would even consider the Philippines. The big question is; will anyone change the current situation? The telco's (PLDT, etc.) seem to be making easy money right now so they are definitely not going to turn things around any day soon... A Google DC would be nice… But I have to agree with Migs & Derek; you would need competitively priced and Telco independent DCs & carriers, peering (interconnection) arrangements between local ISPs and a redundant local and international network in place before the big guys would even consider the Philippines.

The big question is; will anyone change the current situation? The telco’s (PLDT, etc.) seem to be making easy money right now so they are definitely not going to turn things around any day soon…

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