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	<title>Comments on: Some people just don&#8217;t get Problogging</title>
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		<title>By: Stat Board Chief: Call Centers and TV Suck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stat Board Chief: Call Centers and TV Suck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 06:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I have two bits of good news for Dr. Virola. First, Philippine IT is slowly shifting from BPO to netrepreneurship. Second, Philippine entertainment is already shifting from TV to YouTube.           Share this...    Close [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I have two bits of good news for Dr. Virola. First, Philippine IT is slowly shifting from BPO to netrepreneurship. Second, Philippine entertainment is already shifting from TV to YouTube.           Share this&#8230;    Close [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nel animo</title>
		<link>http://www.yugatech.com/blog/problogging/some-people-just-dont-get-problogging/#comment-105241</link>
		<dc:creator>nel animo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 08:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mind their own biz</description>
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		<title>By: Want To Become Problogger? &#187; SELaplana</title>
		<link>http://www.yugatech.com/blog/problogging/some-people-just-dont-get-problogging/#comment-92679</link>
		<dc:creator>Want To Become Problogger? &#187; SELaplana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 07:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] To let you know, I was experiencing that too before. I was confused what Problogger and how to become Problogger. But the post of Yuga cleared up my confusion, and made me realized that I am actually one of the Professional Bloggers. Yuga&#8217;s definition of Problogger is simple, that is, someone who gets paid to blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] To let you know, I was experiencing that too before. I was confused what Problogger and how to become Problogger. But the post of Yuga cleared up my confusion, and made me realized that I am actually one of the Professional Bloggers. Yuga&#8217;s definition of Problogger is simple, that is, someone who gets paid to blog. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pinoy Problogger - &#187; What is a Problogger?</title>
		<link>http://www.yugatech.com/blog/problogging/some-people-just-dont-get-problogging/#comment-91288</link>
		<dc:creator>Pinoy Problogger - &#187; What is a Problogger?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There have been many definitions of what is considered as a professional blogger or &#8220;problogger&#8220;. The simplest way to explain what we do can be summed up by the one and only Abraham of Yugatech, He says &#8220;a professional blogger gets paid to, you guessed it, blog&#8221;. He adds that probloggers get paid to write on blogs in the same way that &#8220;A professional driver gets paid to drive; a professional photographer gets paid to shoot pictures; a professional basketball player gets paid to play hoops; a professional crier gets paid to cry on burials.&#8221;. Simple, yes? But wait, did you know that there are also different types of probloggers? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There have been many definitions of what is considered as a professional blogger or &#8220;problogger&#8220;. The simplest way to explain what we do can be summed up by the one and only Abraham of Yugatech, He says &#8220;a professional blogger gets paid to, you guessed it, blog&#8221;. He adds that probloggers get paid to write on blogs in the same way that &#8220;A professional driver gets paid to drive; a professional photographer gets paid to shoot pictures; a professional basketball player gets paid to play hoops; a professional crier gets paid to cry on burials.&#8221;. Simple, yes? But wait, did you know that there are also different types of probloggers? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Zandueta</title>
		<link>http://www.yugatech.com/blog/problogging/some-people-just-dont-get-problogging/#comment-81563</link>
		<dc:creator>David Zandueta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sus, hayaan mo ang ibang tao. Expectations lang nila 'yon, which you don't have to meet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sus, hayaan mo ang ibang tao. Expectations lang nila &#8216;yon, which you don&#8217;t have to meet.</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel Paraz /Migs :: Problogging backlash?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miguel Paraz /Migs :: Problogging backlash?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So some people just don&#8217;t get problogging. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Miguel</title>
		<link>http://www.yugatech.com/blog/problogging/some-people-just-dont-get-problogging/#comment-80391</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a hot discussion. Makes us really think!</description>
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		<title>By: Max Limpag</title>
		<link>http://www.yugatech.com/blog/problogging/some-people-just-dont-get-problogging/#comment-79793</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Limpag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andrew,
"But what I’m trying to say is: don’t be too quick to generalize."
Are you addressing this to me? If you are then I'm sorry if you see it that way but I've never generalized (as far as I can recall) in fact I'm trying to stress the diversity of the blog world and the diversity of ways bloggers are making money and how it's not an all or nothing thing. 

That's why I keep saying you don't box it in, add artificial limitations that blog's are this and could never be that. That's why I reacted to your generalizations on bloggers and journalists. I don't accept payola by the way and I object to your generalization (you could have qualified it as some). My family starved for more than a year because my wife and I decided we wanted to work for a newspaper that's owned and run by its readers (a coop) but that's for another post. 

I do not know which part of my post you object to  or if indeed you object to it or if it's some other blogger you object to but I think it's pretty clear that what I wrote about ReviewMe focused  on why I though the program isn't for me because of the nature of my main job. If what I wrote offended you, then I'm sorry. 

I did say in my blog post that I see it working for other blogs...on how the arrangement can be viewed as being paid to join a product test, only that you are also blogging about it. 

But Abe didn't appear offended (he says we're cool) and in fact I learned a lot from our discussions on the issue. It's nice to disagree with someone without being disagreeable.

On a completely different note: here's an interesting study :-)
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2169723/asian-blogosphere-surges

I particularly love the last paragraph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andrew,<br />
&#8220;But what I’m trying to say is: don’t be too quick to generalize.&#8221;<br />
Are you addressing this to me? If you are then I&#8217;m sorry if you see it that way but I&#8217;ve never generalized (as far as I can recall) in fact I&#8217;m trying to stress the diversity of the blog world and the diversity of ways bloggers are making money and how it&#8217;s not an all or nothing thing. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I keep saying you don&#8217;t box it in, add artificial limitations that blog&#8217;s are this and could never be that. That&#8217;s why I reacted to your generalizations on bloggers and journalists. I don&#8217;t accept payola by the way and I object to your generalization (you could have qualified it as some). My family starved for more than a year because my wife and I decided we wanted to work for a newspaper that&#8217;s owned and run by its readers (a coop) but that&#8217;s for another post. </p>
<p>I do not know which part of my post you object to  or if indeed you object to it or if it&#8217;s some other blogger you object to but I think it&#8217;s pretty clear that what I wrote about ReviewMe focused  on why I though the program isn&#8217;t for me because of the nature of my main job. If what I wrote offended you, then I&#8217;m sorry. </p>
<p>I did say in my blog post that I see it working for other blogs&#8230;on how the arrangement can be viewed as being paid to join a product test, only that you are also blogging about it. </p>
<p>But Abe didn&#8217;t appear offended (he says we&#8217;re cool) and in fact I learned a lot from our discussions on the issue. It&#8217;s nice to disagree with someone without being disagreeable.</p>
<p>On a completely different note: here&#8217;s an interesting study <img src='http://www.yugatech.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<a href="http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2169723/asian-blogosphere-surges" rel="nofollow">http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2169723/asian-blogosphere-surges</a></p>
<p>I particularly love the last paragraph.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.yugatech.com/blog/problogging/some-people-just-dont-get-problogging/#comment-79749</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Obet: Michael Arrington always pertained to himself as a blogger.  Until he says otherwise, he's a blogger in my book.

Yes, bloggers sure can be journalists if they choose to the same way journalists can own blogs.  But what I'm trying to say is: don't be too quick to generalize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Obet: Michael Arrington always pertained to himself as a blogger.  Until he says otherwise, he&#8217;s a blogger in my book.</p>
<p>Yes, bloggers sure can be journalists if they choose to the same way journalists can own blogs.  But what I&#8217;m trying to say is: don&#8217;t be too quick to generalize.</p>
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		<title>By: Obet</title>
		<link>http://www.yugatech.com/blog/problogging/some-people-just-dont-get-problogging/#comment-79714</link>
		<dc:creator>Obet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew: Blogging can be journalism. Take a look at TechCrunch, Mashable, or GigaOM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew: Blogging can be journalism. Take a look at TechCrunch, Mashable, or GigaOM.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Limpag</title>
		<link>http://www.yugatech.com/blog/problogging/some-people-just-dont-get-problogging/#comment-79687</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Limpag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andrew,
“No matter how you put it blogging is still different from journalism”
In most cases they are different but they are not mutually exclusive. Blogging can be a medium for journalism. At its core it’s a publication platform.

“Me implying that blogs amount to nothing? How did you come up with that? Are you quoting Leo Magno?”
No. It’s just that it’s my impression with the way you say that blogging can never be journalism because they are different and that there’s a line that separates them. It hews the line of those in mainstream media who say blogging can’t be used as a tool for journalism. 

“I’m a blogger myself. What I write about is my business, whether you like it or not.”
Exactly. That’s why I can’t understand why some try to box in blogging by limiting its definition. It is a medium and a publication format. Beyond that it’s up to the blogger. 

“ I’m not under anyone’s payroll (or payola) unlike journalists. So honestly, a journalist telling me how to run my blog is simply irritating.”
Are you referring to me or to the blogger that set off this post by Abe? I know who the blogger is because I emailed Abe. In the event that you are referring to me with that statement, let me just point out that I never and would never tell anyone how to run their blogs. It's not my business. My sentiments on ReviewMe.com are just that, personal feelings on the program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andrew,<br />
“No matter how you put it blogging is still different from journalism”<br />
In most cases they are different but they are not mutually exclusive. Blogging can be a medium for journalism. At its core it’s a publication platform.</p>
<p>“Me implying that blogs amount to nothing? How did you come up with that? Are you quoting Leo Magno?”<br />
No. It’s just that it’s my impression with the way you say that blogging can never be journalism because they are different and that there’s a line that separates them. It hews the line of those in mainstream media who say blogging can’t be used as a tool for journalism. </p>
<p>“I’m a blogger myself. What I write about is my business, whether you like it or not.”<br />
Exactly. That’s why I can’t understand why some try to box in blogging by limiting its definition. It is a medium and a publication format. Beyond that it’s up to the blogger. </p>
<p>“ I’m not under anyone’s payroll (or payola) unlike journalists. So honestly, a journalist telling me how to run my blog is simply irritating.”<br />
Are you referring to me or to the blogger that set off this post by Abe? I know who the blogger is because I emailed Abe. In the event that you are referring to me with that statement, let me just point out that I never and would never tell anyone how to run their blogs. It&#8217;s not my business. My sentiments on ReviewMe.com are just that, personal feelings on the program.</p>
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		<title>By: Ria Jose</title>
		<link>http://www.yugatech.com/blog/problogging/some-people-just-dont-get-problogging/#comment-79680</link>
		<dc:creator>Ria Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't publishers put ads on their newspapers, magazines, tabloids and other publications to earn money???

There is a difference between bloggers and journalists.  People who don't see the difference are delusional.  Bloggers are web loggers... they log onto to the web their experiences, thoughts and opinions.  Journalists ideally report to the public, the truth, uncensored, unbiased and balanced.  There are some instances where bloggers can be journalists, but that doesn't mean that all bloggers (pro or nonpro) are journalists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t publishers put ads on their newspapers, magazines, tabloids and other publications to earn money???</p>
<p>There is a difference between bloggers and journalists.  People who don&#8217;t see the difference are delusional.  Bloggers are web loggers&#8230; they log onto to the web their experiences, thoughts and opinions.  Journalists ideally report to the public, the truth, uncensored, unbiased and balanced.  There are some instances where bloggers can be journalists, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that all bloggers (pro or nonpro) are journalists.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Abundo</title>
		<link>http://www.yugatech.com/blog/problogging/some-people-just-dont-get-problogging/#comment-79647</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Abundo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C'mon, Abe, tell us who pissed you off. I &lt;a href="http://mikeabundo.com/2006/10/31/you-will-know-tech-evangelists-by-the-trail-of-dead/" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;em&gt;love&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; beating up neoluddites. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon, Abe, tell us who pissed you off. I <a href="http://mikeabundo.com/2006/10/31/you-will-know-tech-evangelists-by-the-trail-of-dead/" rel="nofollow"><em>love</em></a> beating up neoluddites. <img src='http://www.yugatech.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.yugatech.com/blog/problogging/some-people-just-dont-get-problogging/#comment-79645</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max, no matter how you put it blogging is still different from journalism.  Journalists represent the press, bloggers respresent the public.  Journalists report the news, bloggers eat the news for dinner.  That's that.  Me implying that blogs amount to nothing?  How did you come up with that?  Are you quoting Leo Magno?

I'm a blogger myself.  What I write about is my business, whether you like it or not.  I'm not under anyone's payroll (or payola) unlike journalists.  So honestly, a journalist telling me how to run my blog is simply irritating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, no matter how you put it blogging is still different from journalism.  Journalists represent the press, bloggers respresent the public.  Journalists report the news, bloggers eat the news for dinner.  That&#8217;s that.  Me implying that blogs amount to nothing?  How did you come up with that?  Are you quoting Leo Magno?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a blogger myself.  What I write about is my business, whether you like it or not.  I&#8217;m not under anyone&#8217;s payroll (or payola) unlike journalists.  So honestly, a journalist telling me how to run my blog is simply irritating.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peace. Gayahin nyo na lang si bryanboy guys, tahimik pero marami revenues hehehe, I don't even know if he-she was a pro blogger or not but i'm sure he gets big income from blogging!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peace. Gayahin nyo na lang si bryanboy guys, tahimik pero marami revenues hehehe, I don&#8217;t even know if he-she was a pro blogger or not but i&#8217;m sure he gets big income from blogging!</p>
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		<title>By: CarloTech.Net &#187; Respect, Do you know its meaning?</title>
		<link>http://www.yugatech.com/blog/problogging/some-people-just-dont-get-problogging/#comment-79494</link>
		<dc:creator>CarloTech.Net &#187; Respect, Do you know its meaning?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 04:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I, myself, wouldn&#8217;t care what you do online nor judge you on what you&#8217;re doing.  It&#8217;s your choice why would I care?  It&#8217;s the same thing as what Yuga posted before regarding those who questions professional blogging. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I, myself, wouldn&#8217;t care what you do online nor judge you on what you&#8217;re doing.  It&#8217;s your choice why would I care?  It&#8217;s the same thing as what Yuga posted before regarding those who questions professional blogging. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Max Limpag</title>
		<link>http://www.yugatech.com/blog/problogging/some-people-just-dont-get-problogging/#comment-79191</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Limpag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,
Let me just point this out because you said you "have a hunch that it’s a journalist who’s giving you a bad time." Abe and I have recent discussions on ReviewMe.com and there are points we disagree on but in no way did I criticize monetization of blogs. I was only talking about the ReviewMe program and if you read our various discussions, you'd see that I was in fact, saying that blogs are great media for reaching consumers.

You say: "That’s why we have to draw the line between blogging and journalism. They’re two different things."

I disagree. It is &lt;strong&gt;not the medium that defines journalism&lt;/strong&gt;. It is the way you do things. When you say that, you sound like those people in mainstream media who say blogs won't amount to anything. 

You say: "Journalists won’t like the fact that you’re being paid to write about something."
But that's not true. Abe isn't being paid to write about anything (except from sponsored posts). He earns from what he writes through ads and referral links but Globe didn't pay him to review their product. Smart didn't pay him to review their service. They just provided him demo units and access to service. They &lt;strong&gt;did not hand him money and say: you write about us.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,<br />
Let me just point this out because you said you &#8220;have a hunch that it’s a journalist who’s giving you a bad time.&#8221; Abe and I have recent discussions on ReviewMe.com and there are points we disagree on but in no way did I criticize monetization of blogs. I was only talking about the ReviewMe program and if you read our various discussions, you&#8217;d see that I was in fact, saying that blogs are great media for reaching consumers.</p>
<p>You say: &#8220;That’s why we have to draw the line between blogging and journalism. They’re two different things.&#8221;</p>
<p>I disagree. It is <strong>not the medium that defines journalism</strong>. It is the way you do things. When you say that, you sound like those people in mainstream media who say blogs won&#8217;t amount to anything. </p>
<p>You say: &#8220;Journalists won’t like the fact that you’re being paid to write about something.&#8221;<br />
But that&#8217;s not true. Abe isn&#8217;t being paid to write about anything (except from sponsored posts). He earns from what he writes through ads and referral links but Globe didn&#8217;t pay him to review their product. Smart didn&#8217;t pay him to review their service. They just provided him demo units and access to service. They <strong>did not hand him money and say: you write about us.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.yugatech.com/blog/problogging/some-people-just-dont-get-problogging/#comment-79041</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you like what you do and you make money out of it, there's nothing wrong with that.  I have a hunch that it's a journalist who's giving you a bad time.  That's why we have to draw the line between blogging and journalism.  They're two different things.  If you become both, it's like you're an architect trying to be an engineer, or a nurse playing doctor.  Journalists won't like the fact that you're being paid to write about something.  They're gonna pull down anyone treading their territory.  What I'm saying is, just be the problogger that you are and don't let any righteous bastard change that.  It's actually refreshing to see you have a say on something.  That's what blogging is all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you like what you do and you make money out of it, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with that.  I have a hunch that it&#8217;s a journalist who&#8217;s giving you a bad time.  That&#8217;s why we have to draw the line between blogging and journalism.  They&#8217;re two different things.  If you become both, it&#8217;s like you&#8217;re an architect trying to be an engineer, or a nurse playing doctor.  Journalists won&#8217;t like the fact that you&#8217;re being paid to write about something.  They&#8217;re gonna pull down anyone treading their territory.  What I&#8217;m saying is, just be the problogger that you are and don&#8217;t let any righteous bastard change that.  It&#8217;s actually refreshing to see you have a say on something.  That&#8217;s what blogging is all about.</p>
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