Comments on: dotPH taps PR to justify Domain Prices http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/ Philippines, Technology News & Reviews Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:34:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Is your website legal? http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-220353 Is your website legal? Fri, 30 May 2008 00:47:39 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-220353 <strong>Is your website legal?...</strong> Chances are your website is violating the law without you even being aware about it. Bulletproof your site, be law compliant, and sleep soundly only worrying about \"normal\" things...like how much profit your business will make...and not having to... Is your website legal?…

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]]> By: CallCenterVet http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212386 CallCenterVet Sat, 26 Jan 2008 06:57:06 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212386 Of course the statement was an exaggeration Yuga. Of course the statement was an exaggeration Yuga.

]]> By: yuga http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212363 yuga Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:38:14 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212363 @ CallCenterVet, we've been reselling PH domains for a couple of years now and we've had some fair success with it. From our experience, we could have sold double the number if we had it lower. @ CallCenterVet, we’ve been reselling PH domains for a couple of years now and we’ve had some fair success with it. From our experience, we could have sold double the number if we had it lower.

]]> By: CallCenterVet http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212359 CallCenterVet Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:49:44 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212359 @Andre what's the point? Nobody's buying... @Andre

what’s the point? Nobody’s buying…

]]> By: Andre http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212358 Andre Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:33:46 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212358 If someone sold .COM.PH domains at $16/year ($1 profit) each and everyone bought from that reseller, then dotPH would lose out on all the extra money it would normally make, about $19 per domain per year. So then for dotPH to compete with that reseller it would either have to offer more services or drop its retail price. Then on the other hand, the cheaper reseller has to sell 19 more domains to match dotPH's profit, not counting the real profit they make off each domain. If someone sold .COM.PH domains at $16/year ($1 profit) each and everyone bought from that reseller, then dotPH would lose out on all the extra money it would normally make, about $19 per domain per year. So then for dotPH to compete with that reseller it would either have to offer more services or drop its retail price. Then on the other hand, the cheaper reseller has to sell 19 more domains to match dotPH’s profit, not counting the real profit they make off each domain.

]]> By: Christian http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212331 Christian Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:33:45 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212331 Why is dotPH focused on businesses and their use for their domains? It's like they (dotPH) feels a little sore if you make money with your .PH domain. While there might be SEO advantages in getting a PH domain, the average Juan could care less. Businesses have all the $$$$ to pay for the domains but how about the masses who just want their name.ph? I would respect dotPH if they were simply honest rather than relying on all the technical mumbo-jumbo they use to get internet n00b businesses to pay for their outrageous prices. They have a monopoly and it's a simple as that. I believe they have the right to charge whatever they want but be transparent about it. Why is dotPH focused on businesses and their use for their domains? It’s like they (dotPH) feels a little sore if you make money with your .PH domain. While there might be SEO advantages in getting a PH domain, the average Juan could care less. Businesses have all the $$$$ to pay for the domains but how about the masses who just want their name.ph? I would respect dotPH if they were simply honest rather than relying on all the technical mumbo-jumbo they use to get internet n00b businesses to pay for their outrageous prices. They have a monopoly and it’s a simple as that. I believe they have the right to charge whatever they want but be transparent about it.

]]> By: Emil Avancena http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212329 Emil Avancena Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:09:58 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212329 Yuga, using a .PH domain in addition to a .COM domain (or any other gTLD or ccTLD that helps drive traffic to your site) should take care of that. Yuga, using a .PH domain in addition to a .COM domain (or any other gTLD or ccTLD that helps drive traffic to your site) should take care of that.

]]> By: yuga http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212317 yuga Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:11:31 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212317 @Emil, it could also go the other way around. Individuals or companies that have sites on PH domains can suffer lower SERP rankings on other countries as opposed to when they have a COM domain. @Emil, it could also go the other way around. Individuals or companies that have sites on PH domains can suffer lower SERP rankings on other countries as opposed to when they have a COM domain.

]]> By: CallCenterVet http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212212 CallCenterVet Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:48:42 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212212 @Emil I actually find localized searches annoying! I hate it when it shows "pages from the Philippines" and totally ignore it. 99% of the time I insist on using "google.com" and NOT "google.com.ph". The tagalog version and translation of searches in Google is annoying and most of the time does not correspond to the actual meaning of the word. @Emil

I actually find localized searches annoying! I hate it when it shows “pages from the Philippines” and totally ignore it. 99% of the time I insist on using “google.com” and NOT “google.com.ph”. The tagalog version and translation of searches in Google is annoying and most of the time does not correspond to the actual meaning of the word.

]]> By: Emil Avancena http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212209 Emil Avancena Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:10:47 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212209 Hi Yuga, I don't think we'll see these advantages disappearing soon. The trend is moving towards localized search, which makes for more relevant search results. Look at yahoo providing local ads for Philippine surfers, and google.com.ph which has the "pages from the Philippines" button that Joel mentioned. So unless an RP-based site is hosted locally (not likely because of higher bandwidth costs and the reasons Joel mentioned), the .PH domain is really the only way to be identified as such. Hi Yuga,

I don’t think we’ll see these advantages disappearing soon. The trend is moving towards localized search, which makes for more relevant search results. Look at yahoo providing local ads for Philippine surfers, and google.com.ph which has the “pages from the Philippines” button that Joel mentioned.

So unless an RP-based site is hosted locally (not likely because of higher bandwidth costs and the reasons Joel mentioned), the .PH domain is really the only way to be identified as such.

]]> By: yuga http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212095 yuga Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:53:44 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212095 Emil & Joel, I've actually discussed those SERPs *advantages* in my previous posts about the PH domains. However, those advantages have been introduced by Google and Yahoo only recently. They may actually revise these advantages too in the future. I don't think we'd want to rely on those factors when they are not inherent benefits. Emil & Joel,

I’ve actually discussed those SERPs *advantages* in my previous posts about the PH domains.

However, those advantages have been introduced by Google and Yahoo only recently. They may actually revise these advantages too in the future. I don’t think we’d want to rely on those factors when they are not inherent benefits.

]]> By: CallCenterVet http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212092 CallCenterVet Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:07:45 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212092 When using Google to search "beach resort in the Philippines", Only one out of 10 results come up with a dotph TLD. Even for a Google search of "beaches philippines" has the same result. So I don't know how they can justify having a dotph will get better results in the search engines. I'd have to agree that an average Juan will not know or would not do an advanced search in Google. First instinct is always to do a normal search. When using Google to search “beach resort in the Philippines”, Only one out of 10 results come up with a dotph TLD. Even for a Google search of “beaches philippines” has the same result.

So I don’t know how they can justify having a dotph will get better results in the search engines. I’d have to agree that an average Juan will not know or would not do an advanced search in Google. First instinct is always to do a normal search.

]]> By: Christian http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212089 Christian Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:54:33 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212089 Regarding: “look only for websites from the Philippines option" in Google. The average juan doesn't use Google advance search. Most just type their search in Google.com. BTW, 1 .PH came up searching for beach resort in Google advance searching for pages in the Philippines. ex: <a href="http://www.google.com/search?as_q=beach+resort&hl=en&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&cr=countryPH&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=off" rel="nofollow">beach resorts</a> Regarding: “look only for websites from the Philippines option” in Google. The average juan doesn’t use Google advance search. Most just type their search in Google.com. BTW, 1 .PH came up searching for beach resort in Google advance searching for pages in the Philippines.

ex: beach resorts

]]> By: Emil Avancena http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212087 Emil Avancena Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:43:23 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-212087 posting on behalf of Joel Disini re: Why even bother with a dotph site. There are an infinity of domain possibilities out there. Ask me what kind of domain you need and I’ll give it to you for a fee. Hello Yuga, Joel Disini here. Like it or hate it, a PH domain plays a unique function that a COM does not - it establishes a business as being based in the Philippines, or catering to the Philippine market. When one searches in Google for a beach resort in the Philippines and chooses the "look only for websites from the Philippines" option, Google restricts the search to (1) websites physically hosted in the Philippines and (2) websites ending in a PH domain. Because the local Telcos are notorious for not interconnecting with each other, many - in fact, a huge majority of - Philippine webhosting companies actually choose to host abroad. I believe your own Ploghost is one of these Webhosting companies. In cases like these, the only way Google will know that a local site caters to the Philippine market is by its PH domain. So if a business has clients in the Philippines, it may make sense to get a PH domain (even if it already operates with a COM domain). The additional $35/year expense is generally small when compared to the additional traffic and business that comes with greater search engine visibility. posting on behalf of Joel Disini re:

Why even bother with a dotph site. There are an infinity of domain possibilities out there. Ask me what kind of domain you need and I’ll give it to you for a fee.

Hello Yuga,

Joel Disini here. Like it or hate it, a PH domain plays a unique function that a COM does not - it establishes a business as being based in the Philippines, or catering to the Philippine market.

When one searches in Google for a beach resort in the Philippines and chooses the “look only for websites from the Philippines” option, Google restricts the search to (1) websites physically hosted in the Philippines and (2) websites ending in a PH domain. Because the local Telcos are notorious for not interconnecting with each other, many - in fact, a huge majority of - Philippine webhosting companies actually choose to host abroad. I believe your own Ploghost is one of these Webhosting companies.

In cases like these, the only way Google will know that a local site caters to the Philippine market is by its PH domain. So if a business has clients in the Philippines, it may make sense to get a PH domain (even if it already operates with a COM domain). The additional $35/year expense is generally small when compared to the additional traffic and business that comes with greater search engine visibility.

]]> By: CallCenterVet http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-211956 CallCenterVet Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:23:24 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-211956 I hear the dot me market will soon be open and there should be a lot of people looking forward to buying in these because of the market appeal. Check out <a href="http://callcenterveteran.blogspot.com/2008/01/dot-me-domains-will-soon-be-selling.html" rel="nofollow">my post about the dotme domains</a>. I hear the dot me market will soon be open and there should be a lot of people looking forward to buying in these because of the market appeal.

Check out my post about the dotme domains.

]]> By: BrianB http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-211896 BrianB Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:29:43 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-211896 Why even bother with a dotph site. There are an infinity of domain possibilities out there. Ask me what kind of domain you need and I'll give it to you for a fee. Why even bother with a dotph site. There are an infinity of domain possibilities out there. Ask me what kind of domain you need and I’ll give it to you for a fee.

]]> By: Andre http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-211887 Andre Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:07:06 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-211887 We probably can't expect dotPH to drop price, they are the main, dropping prices is bad for them. It would have to take a reseller and some investment to sell domains real cheap around $15-$20 . So far it looks like noone has wanted to take that risk, would people buy a .COM.PH if it cost only PHP800 per year ? vs $1435? We probably can’t expect dotPH to drop price, they are the main, dropping prices is bad for them. It would have to take a reseller and some investment to sell domains real cheap around $15-$20 . So far it looks like noone has wanted to take that risk, would people buy a .COM.PH if it cost only PHP800 per year ? vs $1435?

]]> By: yuga http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-211886 yuga Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:51:14 +0000 http://www.yugatech.com/blog/the-internet/dotph-taps-pr-to-justify-domain-prices/#comment-211886 Thanks Emil. My source even mentioned the name of the owner of this PR company who used to be a media executive. And btw, the last promo that we had from dotPH was way back Feb 2007. Maybe we can have more of them this year. Thanks Emil. My source even mentioned the name of the owner of this PR company who used to be a media executive. And btw, the last promo that we had from dotPH was way back Feb 2007. Maybe we can have more of them this year.

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