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The Philippines in Top Coders

A visitor posted something on the shoutbox that caught my attention. It’s a statistics on country rankings for developers by TopCoders. In that list, the Philippines was ranked last at number 35 with a rating of only 880 for 12 developers. A lot of other 3rd-world Asian countries are ahead of us — Veitnam (Rank: 19, Developers: 29, Rating: 1600), Bangladesh (Rank: 25, Developers: 23, Rating: 1,422), Pakistan (Rank: 34 Developers: 19, Rating: 941) and Indonesia (Rank: 20, Developers: 33, Rating: 1,587).

I check their formula to see how they were able to come up with the ratings system:

Country rankings are based on an aggregation of the TopCoder members within a particular country that have competed within the last 180 days, in other words, those that are “active”.

The formula below has the property that if all the coders from a particular country have the same rating, then that country’s rating would be the same as the individual ratings. When coder ratings differ, the country rating is based mostly on the top rated coders. The intent is to provide a better way to rank countries than a simple average.

When generating the country rankings we take the individual ratings for active coders from a particular country, sorted in decreasing order. These ratings are given by rating1 … ratingM, where M is the total number of active coders from a country.

formula

Where:

  • M is the number of active coders from a particular country
  • i is a 1 based index of active coders from a particular country when sorted by rating in descending order, in other words, their
  • rank within their country
  • ratingi is the rating of the coder with index i
  • R is a constant that will dictate the weighting of the different ranks
  • R = .87, this means that the top 10 coders contribute about 75% of a country’s rating.

    Although the sample size of Top Coders isn’t really representative of the population size of the respective countries, we cannot infer that the ratings/ranking is conclusive.

    However, assuming all other factors are equal, it’s not a good sign for us Filipino developers to be at the last of the line.

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    Avatar for Abe Olandres

    Abe is the founder and Editor-in-Chief of YugaTech with over 20 years of experience in the technology industry. He is one of the pioneers of blogging in the country and considered by many as the Father of Tech Blogging in the Philippines. He is also a technology consultant, a tech columnist with several national publications, resource speaker and mentor/advisor to several start-up companies.

    35 Responses

    1. Avatar for bradlee bradlee says:

      Want to EARN dollars while working at home :

      MyPHPCoder — PHP Script community site
      is a marketplace where people who need
      custom software developed can find coders.

      myphpcoder.com — making life better for the Filipino people. PHP Coders for — oscommerce,dolphin,aedwebworks,xoops,mambo and phpbb.

    2. Avatar for blue angel blue angel says:

      puwede po bang bigyan nyo po ako ng title sa research namin sa computer thesis mga java scrift o vb ang program tsaka html codes pls……….. tnx…

    3. Avatar for Jay-r Jay-r says:

      guys, penge namn ako ng sample.. hehe.. ng vb prog, ung madali lang.. ty

    4. Avatar for darklightercarl darklightercarl says:

      hay, sayang kung nadevelop lang ng maayos yung pilipinas e di sana nasa top tayo ng coders. dati pumapangalawa tayo sa japan sa buong asia ngayon pinakababa na. and did you know na ang first virus ay nag-originate sa pilipinas?

    5. Avatar for Sean Segundo Sean Segundo says:

      @ Arpee

      san ko po makikita yung practice room sa site nang topcoder?

      tnx.

    6. Avatar for demonhale demonhale says:

      Ive taught 13 to 16 year old kids html and basic CSS, and JS can they be called developers? I hope we make up for our lack there on the TopCoder site (hope not one flip black hatter discovers this or they hack away the results LOL!)… Well anyways, lets make up for it…

    7. Avatar for Arpee Ong Arpee Ong says:

      i registered for the topcoders, and to be honest, when i tried out the practice rooms, i realized how insufficient i am, i was able to solve a 250 problem and failed twice on 500’s and 1x on a 1000. and then i became bothered myself.. just last night i digged my VB books and resolve things with my lackness, i realized that im such an insufficient freak,, but not for long, im not gonna let it stay that way, i’ll re-study and im adding the VC in my jargon and making it a part of my vernacular language, i think this is more of a challenge to us rather than just sit and let it be, no way! i learned DOS batching just last two years, and flash a week ago, all self-study, so is it how young you learned something or how fast you learn it..

    8. Avatar for Arpee Ong Arpee Ong says:

      ..and another thing is, most of us dont even care about the rating. like “let it be, so what, i earn from programming and have a nice job, why do i need to join such?”

      nah, vb or vc, who gives a fuck, all i know is vb, but if this guys knows a shit about what he’s talkin’ about, he would know that it is not so hard for a vb guy to migrate to c languages, or even “b” pa kung trip mo, c was just an implementation of b anyway, and those who laughed at this should be laughed at cuz they dont fuckin know histrory ” “the c manual of 1974” d.m. ritchi.. bye

    9. Avatar for Arpee Ong Arpee Ong says:

      Whatever! alarming yun, last tau? send some brigade to fix that, 2900 lng score nung poland right? 700 plus lang tau, the hell with that, why dont we stop talking bullshit here and join the fucking competition, its stupid to see we’re in the last.. ah.. time lang naman, most filipino programers aint got the time to fuck with those competitions, still i feel bad about the phil. on the last

    10. Avatar for Codebreaker Codebreaker says:

      VB LANG CGURO ANG ALAM NG MGA I2 D NA LUMAGPAS ANG KAKAYAHAN NILA SA VB kaya nga BASIC aeh PAMBATA BOYS PREFER THAT PERO WE PREFER VC++

    11. Avatar for Codebreaker Codebreaker says:

      This sucks all i see are comments but no actual CODES WRITTEN

    12. Avatar for darksparrow darksparrow says:

      magpakitaan na lang kayo ng mga pamatay nyong project :)

    13. Avatar for Fleeb Fleeb says:

      Yung HTML kasi markup lang, so pag plain HTML lang web designer lang yun di developer. Pag developer may kasamang scripting languages na yan (JavaScript, PHP etc.).

      Hindi ko rin alam kung paano mo matawag na developer talaga eh. Natuto ako ng first PL ko yung PSION OPL 9 years old ako. Siyempre looping and conditional statements lang alam ko. DOS scripting 10 years old, C 12 years old, HTML 13 years old, Javascript/Flash noong 14, Pascal noong 15… so pag ganun lang e di developer na ako noon pa? Wala bang parameters? Tulad kunyari na nakagawa ka na ng isang full working app or something?

    14. Avatar for Diong Diong says:

      Oo pwede rin tawagin pamangkin mo or the one who only knows VB na developer…

      But naturally there are different levels of being a developer. The two above are not on the same level as with those developers with CS degree, or with years of development experience in different tools and platforms.

      Let say na meet nga yung requirements, but what if next month naiba yung requirements, imbis na 1000 records ang pinaprocess, na increase to 1,000,000. Or desktop application, sabi nung boss gawing web based and we gonna drop M$ as a provider. If a developer who only knows VB and nothing else, would he be able to handle the requirements change above?

      Oh… I do not think the software that handle nuclear warheads run on Windows… (it just too dangerous when installing those updates) :-)

    15. Avatar for darksparrow darksparrow says:

      eh kayo mga developer, ano po ba ang requirement para masabi nyong isang developer ang isang tao? like po ng sinabi ni fleeb natuto lang ng HTML eh matatawag na po ba nating developer? kasi kung ganun po developer na pamangkin ko kasi 13 na sya marunong na ng HTML..

      and one more thing what if kung Visual Basic lang ang alam pero matinik sya parang kaya nyang gumawa ng software bridge using vb6 to lunch nuclear warhead hahaha :)(sample lang po) what i mean is kahit hindi ganun ka wide ang knowledge nya pero capable syang gumawa ng software na mamemeet naman ang requirement.. can we call that a developer?

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