Been having lengthy conversations/debates in Twitter, FB and Google+ this afternoon regarding prepaid SIM registration in the Philippines. So I thought I’d post a poll for everyone else here to join in.
Been talking about SIM registration and number portability as far back as 2005 (here) and also wrote the benefits and disadvantages of doing SIM registration earlier this year as well as a proposed bill by Sen. Manny Villar (Senate Bill No. 2644).
Just this afternoon, I was made aware of a life-threatening incident that involved use of SMS so I forwarded the case to telco friends (can’t share the details since privacy/anonymity was explicitly requested).
This also reminded me of the issue in SIM card registration. The talks over at Twitter, FB and Google+ were enlightening so I thought it would be better to put it to a vote here so everyone else can chime in.
*Note: Try the poll on the right side bar if you can’t vote here.
Go hit the comment if you have something more to say.
YES nlng.
ang boboto ng NO dito ay mga scammer naman eh. kung hindi ka naman manloloko ay hindi ka matatakoy na ipa-register ung SIM card mo eh. kaya lng ayaw nung iba kasi mahal daw… hassle. pero kung safety ang usapan… walang mali d2. pagkanagkaroon ng registration… makikilala na agad ung gumagamit ng cellphone para magpasabog ng bomba at nagse-send ng scams.
Lahat tayo walang tiwala sa pamahalaan. Pero bakit tayo natatakot sa pagpaparehistro ng SIM cards kung ang lahat personal information natin ay may access na ang gobyerno? Ano ba naman na idagdag ang impormasyon sa pagpaparehistro ng SIM card?
Siguro eh isa ako sa magrarally kung pati address at bank account ko eh hihingin sa pagpaparegister lang ng SIM card.
Eto lang naman ang kailangan, sa pananaw ko sa SIM card registration:
1. Name
2. Birthdate
3. Valid ID number (SSS/GSIS, Passport, Company ID)
Yes, here.
Baby steps. Unless anyone here can suggest a move that we can consider really significant.
i am in favor of SIM registration, so as long as we will not pay EXTRA costs; just imagine falling in line just to register a SIM card, or maybe even having blood tests which costs so much; dont laugh, our government is capable of unleashing the stupidest procedures and regulations.
YES: Para din sa kaligtasan natin yan!
That will not work here in the Philippines. Sobrang laking abala. 40 million Filipinos na walang kasalanan ang pipilitin mong magparehistro. Dagdag gastos na naman yan para sa atin. Mas malala pa sa eleksyon o pila sa NBI Clearance ang pila kapag nangyari ito kasi kasamang magpaparehistro ang mga taong below 18. Pero hindi mo mapipilit ang mga criminal magparehistro ng number. Ang mga holdaper nga ng bangko at mga Abu Sayyaf hindi gumagamit ng rehistradong baril.
Twitter: zer0ice
says:
EXACTLY.
Bakit kailangang maging requirement yon? Pati mga batang nag-ce-cellphone, mag-re-register din? Pano kapag meron kang 3 prepaid accounts, register mo isa-isa?
Ang lakas ng loob ng iba dito magsabi ng “bobo” ang mga nag-”NO”.
Isa pa, hindi porke’t mas marami ang PRO versus CONS e dapat yun na ang ipatupad. Hindi ganon yon.
Dinadaan ang lahat sa masusing pag-a-aral. Mahirap mag-decide kung i-ba-base lamang sa mga bagay na naiintindihan mo lang. Pano ang mga ibang bagay na hindi naiintindihan dahil hindi mo pa napag-isipan? Pano ang mga bagay na maaaring maka-apekto sa ibang tao?
Hindi lahat ng cellphone ay pag-a-ari ng isang tao. Karamihan din sa mga prepaid users ay ginagamit ng mga maliliit na kumpanya. Pano sa mga ganitong sitwasyon.
Sa totoo lang, napakarami pang mga bagay na dapat pag-aralan at bigyan ng masusing pa-a-aral. Sino ang gagawa nito? Dapat lang ba mag-YES na tayong lahat dahil lamang sa naisip nating “good” points? Pano ang mga “bad” points? Anu-ano ba ito? Alam na ba natin lahat?
Kaya “NO” (or even undecided) ang sagot ko dahil isa itong batas na ninanais ipatupad. Madaling magsabi ng “undecided”, but given the gravity of issue involved, it is, in my opinion, right and enough for me to say “NO” to something I don’t understand kaysa mag-”YES” ako with something I partly understood.
pano naman po magiging malaking abala yun??? magbibigay ka lng ng kopya ng id mo.
dito sa ME, matagal ng ganyan.di na isyu yan.
DAMING NYONG SAT-SAT. SANA MASABUGAN NG BOMBA BUONG PAMILYA NYO OR MAKIDNAP OR MABIGYAN NG DEATH THREATS. GOODLUCK. NOT UNTIL MAY MANGYARI HINDI MAGBABAGO PANANAW NYO. MASYADO LANG NEGATIVE AT UTAK TALANGKA YUNG IBA. PURO REKLAMO KAYA WALANG NANGYAYARI SA BUHAY NYO!!!
hehe. parang RH Bill lang pala ito eh. walang katapusang debate :p
Yes for me. The telco company’s should unite and create a good system for this. Children’s sim card should be registered through their parents.
There are a lot of means naman sa opinion ko para iparegister ang sim.
Some of my ideas:
Meron nga pa-contest sa mga Telcos na you have to register your real name and other info by SMS. (Imagine, your mobile number won 1 million pesos pero bogus name ang inilagay mo).
By email, then you have to verify your info some institution to make it valid.
By Phone, (same with email verification stated above).
By internet, (my gulay, yung iba nga dyan nilalagay nila true info nila sa FB nila. Sa sim registration pa.)
By Over the counter.
Etc. etc.
Its not I am being yes eh wala akong idea sa No.
Well yep, we have some katutubo na I know gumagamit din sila ng mobile phone. Or some below 18 kids. Yes, we have hundreds of reasons to say YES or NO. Yet, sana naman wag na umiral yung katamaran, walang patience, walang pakialam, makasarili na pinapakita ng iba.
My gulay, ticket nga sa bus hinde mo maitapon sa tamang lugar, kelangan mo pang ipit dyan sa upuan ng bus o tapon kung san san…my point here eh maliit na bagay na lang nga yan, hinde mo pa magawa ng ayos. Sa sim registration pa, hinde natin masimulan. Ika nga sa isang commenter, “BABY STEPS”.
I read the previous commenter…na sim card will cost 1500…Agree ako dyan…sana its the same as old days na you value the sim card you have…I remember, I bought my sim I think around 450…and until now gamit ko pa din yun…
Maybe isa yun sa paraan para bumaba yung mga manloloko. hehehehe
There’s nothing wrong and nothing even complicated about it. A system like SMART Web Connect can be the start of this “SIM Registration.”
like i said before, taasan nalang ang price ng mga prepaid sim card. to somewhat of a range of 1200 pesos non transferable load valid for 12 months.
Another waste of resources and time, crooks with enough motive and determination would not be deterred by this, it would just be a hassle to a majority of the people much like TSA to Americans are.
Disclaimer: I am on postpaid and they got my details anyway. Just my 2 cents.
yes, para sa akin, ito ay isang maliit na paraan na magagawa natin, para tulungan ang gobyerno. para magkaroon din ng commitment telcos sa publiko at sa gobyerno.
sana, nasimulan ito dati, bago pa na boom ang prepaid sims. anyways, its no to late.
sun post paid subscriber ako…..
i voted yes. madaming krimen ang nagagawa kasi anonymous na un prepaid card user. unlike when registered they would think twice or thrice before scamming or using it in a malicious way. this can even make the telcos save money and the environment by not producing thousands of sims that will just be thrown away kasi nga disposable at mura na sya, parang laruan na lang kung tratuhin ng mga tao, unlike years before na it would cost you hundreds of pesos just for a single sim. and i think this would decongest their system kapag na weed out yun mga ayaw mag paregister dahil gamit nila sa mga maling gawain.
Tanong lang?
Sinong hahawak ng records kung saka-sakaling may registration na nga? Yung telcos ba o yung gobyerno?
Kasi kung yung telcos, eh di siguradong ipakakargo na naman nila sa consumers yung gastos niyan. Hindi lang yung acquiring of records ang gastos diyan, pati yung keeping of records na sa palagay ko ay mas magiging magastos pa.
Kung yung gobyerno naman, eh di panibagong ahensya na naman yan? Ang dami na ngang “under funded” na ahensiya ng gobyerno ngayon tapos nagdadagdag pa ng ganito.
Walang problema sa rehistro, ang problema ay yung sa process at pagmaintain nito.
Tsaka sa palagay nyo ba, hindi madaling magforge ng documents para magkaroon ka ng bagong identity maliban sa tunay na ikaw?
Sim Card Registration is not a solution to celphone related crimes. Baka nga mas lalo pang gumulo ang usapin dahil sa mga Identity Theft na madalas nangyayari ngayon. Eh di nyo naman ipagbabawal na magkaroon ng more than one sim per name di ba? paano kung may magrehistro ng SIM sa pangalan ko na wala naman akong kinalaman dun at saka niya gamitin sa kalokohan? Anong solusyon meron kayo sa ganyang problema?
Isip isip muna bago magyes… Di na baleng BOBO huwag lang maging TANGA.
This was implemented in japan, ostensibly to keep anonymous prepaids out of gangster/fraudster hands.
Years later, they still have their anonymous phones, and tourists now find it impossible to get local phone service other than temporary sim rentals at the equivalent of P500 PER DAY.
And I don’t want to think about the logistics of initial registration of 40 million existing SIMs.
It’s okay with me to come and register my prepaid SIM card (I already have a postpaid so registering is not really a big deal.)
But here’s the thing, I’m okay with it because I know I’ll have easy access to modes of registration. Thru the internet, go. Thru a Globe/Smart branch, go. But how about my relatives in the province who doesn’t even know the concept of a “miscall”?
SIM card registration is the dream. It has a good purpose, but we don’t have the means to properly execute it. Getting your NBI clearance is like hell already.
hmmmm, pede bang hulihan na lang ang nabebenta ng simcard sa bangketa. at i-limit na lang ang bebenta sa mga authorized shops ang pag tinda ng sim cards.
mas magastos ba pagkatulad sa US na walang simcard ang phone.CDMA ata yun. para lahat ma register….
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Pros of SIM Reg :
-Each sim has an identity
-Lesser scam
-lesser text/call related crimes
Cons:
-What if you’ve accidentally sent an important /sensitive message to a wrong number?
-Fake ID during registration would create Fake-Valid Sim identity. (ie I could register as Atty. Dela Cruz of PCSO, hence, my scam would be more believable)
I think,they should study this issue.
Kung Facebook nga may registration? However, registration is not merely a counter-measure against fraud / crime / scam, but rather, Dissemination of QUALITY INFORMATION to others.
though alam naman natin na pwedeng fake ang identity ng mga taong nasa text/call madami pa ding naloloko….
MERON PA RIN KASING PROBLEMA sa IBANG PILIPINO.
NO. Just leave the sim-registration to the post paid subscribers and I hope that Idea goes away.
I vote yes. Postpaid sims are registered what will be the hassle if prepaids are to be registered.
330 are LOAD SCAMMERS, who disagree with this!
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