How much are telcos losing on FB & Twitter?

If you can’t beat ’em, join them right? I suppose the telcos’ offering mobile access to FB and Twitter compensates for the much lower volume of SMS sent this past Christmas.

I really don’t txt unless I’m outside or important.

1. fb and twitter sends msg on the dot w/o delay.
2. it’s free
3. wifi hotspots are increasing, tap in and msg/post away.
4. and best of all, there’s no limit to how many you send or expiration :)

Stopped using txt messages since I discovered facebook 2 years ago… I only use texting for people who still doesn’t have a facebook account…

18 million accounts on Facebook from the Philippines

idealistic
18 million x 20 pesos per day = ~Php 360,000,000.00 per day

realistic
8 million x 20 pesos per day = ~Php 160,000,000.00 per day x 28 days = ~Php 4,480,000,000.00 per month

not including those still using txt

still think it’s bad?

tama nga. . .balang araw unti unti nalang talaga gagamit ng text, .peru ang call hindi pa ma aapektohan masyado. .lalo na ngay0n super dmi gumagamit ng internet mpa CP or PC., sa cp dami nkaka free ng internet kagaya q.hehe. .

@raymond – if you’re an internet subscriber(say for 999 pesos) and you sent an sms (say 1 peso) then that’s 1000 pesos for them. If you don’t send sms then that’s only 999 pesos for them. If you send more sms, that’s even more money for them and when more people do that then that’s even, even, even more money for them.

I also used facebook to greet everyone I know but then I had to call abroad because I wanted to talk to my relatives there.

Tama si Raymond, Sila din yun eh

Well, how many of those 18M actually own a PC or smartphone? maybe half?

And how many of that half are facing their PC or smartphone by the time christmas eve arrives? maybe 1/3?

If that’s the case, telcos ONLY lost 3M (1 peso per txt) in Christmas eve. (You can’t multiply it by 10 or 20 since those “fb friends” are part of that number)

this topic is irrelevant

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

I’d like to add to the argument that telcos are probably losing from FB and twitter. Birthday greetings alone are proof. Compared to 3 years ago, I got a lot more texts than friendster (yes, friendster) greetings (parang handful lang ata greetings ko from friendster. ). A year ago, it was more or less 1/2 and 1/2 from facebook and through SMS. Now it’s more like 1/5 of the greetings came from SMS and the rest came from facebook. Imagine the loss they have everyday from this shift to sharing greetings through facebook/twitter.

@manong
as always, you are such a certified troll!
i bet you’ll never change!
the calendar’s about to change but you can’t make yourself a change, eh?

come on, 2011’s about to come so you better change or everybody will HATE you! i bet you did not have any relatives that’s why you spend your frustration in trolling over the internet. what a child’s play, huh? guys like you always got a jacked up notion of fair play and that’ll never change because you’re a troll after all. your bashful words interest us not.

and where the hell did you get your informations, manong? wikipedia?

don’t you ever make some mess with sir yuga because you’ll be in the dumps after all.

raymond is correct. to add to his argument. telcos are now shifting to IP networks by phasing out their old exchages. their telephony system is now using SIP, an IP protocol.

toll calls are much cheaper via SIP – at least by 70%. one telco i know is now 100% SIP in their nationwide network. remember, savings = revenue, right? so they’re not losing.

finally, each subscriber line in the new system provides both voice and data. so, telcos want all consumers to subscribe broadband to recover their investment. as long as they earn P999/month, they don’t mind if SMS traffic drops.

oras na para bumaba ang rate ng mobile internet hehehehe

I actually posted this before Christmas on two social network sites: “With Facebook and Twitter, who needs unlimited texting?” And friends who replied seemed to indicate they were going SNS over SMS. Actually, I did not subscribe to unlimited texting this Christmas (which they did away with anyways) and most likely won’t for New Year too.

The problem for telcos is that they maintain the system for all services like voice, SMS and Internet. If a user only uses voice they telcos loses the money that they spent on the SMS and Internet side.

So if people uses all services that’s the revenue for telcos. Since people are using the sms and most probably the voice service just uses the Internet, then telcos could be facing some financial problem down the line.

pero malaki pa rin naman ang cater market ng sms. not everyone has an instant access to internet, like pc/laptop or smartphone. marami parin ang preferred ang sms kasi parng instant, real time at personal.

but i use fb kasi mas masaya, interactive (lahat ng friends pedeng magcomment-an sa isang posts) at madaling i access in my part.

good question. i also noticed that network traffic was low last christmas – i was able to easily send/ receive SMS. by next holiday season, wala nang mauunang bumati ng 24th “to avoid network traffic”.

yes, so far i only did my greetings in FB except for those people who texted me personally and i did replied back, in the end, i still appreciate those who texted me coz mostly they are the ones close to me.

giant telcos now carry their traffic – voice, data, SMS, video (don’t 4get), etc. via their NGN (IP-based) network. it’s all Internet! they’re not maintaining separate facilities for each service. how can they lose? the real losers in this race are the small telcos.

I think SMS is not that old, maybe we’ve just found alternatives (fb & twitter). SMS still very useful today. I think sending message on friends’ wall aren’t enough because some can’t accesss in Internet always.

Even though I didn’t send out text greetings last christmas, Telcos still earn a lot of money from me. I tend to call rather than text. LOL

And to add to the topic, telcos may be losing revenues from text messages during the christmas and new year, the revenues from the broadband connection is steadily increasing considering they (telcos) are the providers of such.

Nevertheless, screw them especially Globe for the poor and rotten service their providing to their consumers!

hindi nyo n problema yan…haha
py new year

sending sms is an old trend…
social networking is a new trend…

as you can see pcs get cheaper and more accessible thanks to those internet cafes and those who sell 2nd-hand pentium 4 computer…

o btw here are 6 reasons why SMS beats IM.

http://www.cellouts.net/2010/12/sore-thumbs%E2%80%93sms-vs-mobile-im/

Well, I don’t have a Facebook or a Twitter account so that’s about that. :P Plus, I greet less than 5 people on holidays anyway. :P

i used all of the above.

sms
calls
fb and twitter.

there is no way that telcos are losing money. they are gaining more… due to fb and twitter..