I have been asked dozens of times why I have not made the switch to a Mac for years. So when I bought a Mac a couple months ago, I thought all those “benefits” one gets from using a Mac (and OS X for that matter) will be put to test.
No Viruses. It has not been a problem for me in the last few years while running on Windows (I no longer use any anti-virus) so I don’t think it will be a problem on the Mac.
No Computer Crashes. I have had more crashes and computer freeze on my Macbook Air in a month than I’ve had in my Windows 7 laptop in 12 months. And I’m not exaggerating. Good thing there’s no blue screen of death here though — the Mac just gracefully exits.
Mac Energy Saver. The Mac has one of the best power saving features I’ve seen. I very seldom shut down the machine and always rely on sleep mode. But it’s not always a walk in the park. Like my Windows PC, I experienced my Mac not going to sleep after closing the lid. A few hours later, after fishing it out of the sleeve, I discovered it’s still running with the internal fan humming like crazy and heating up like it could cook a pancake.
I originally thought mine’s an isolated case but two other people I convinced to get the same exact MacBook Air had similar problems, though much less frequent than mine.
I guess I was just expecting too much from an OSX machine (my previous machine is an Acer Timeline which has lower specs than the Air). I love the hardware of my Macbook Air (see full review here). I even recommended it to a lot of people and I will still recommend it. I think it’s OS X that I am having issues with. Maybe I should just reformat and install Windows 7 instead.
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Jay says:
Warning: This is a potentially provocative topic. Remember guys to keep your cool on this one :-)
Be Merry and be happy always! Cheers!
Back to topic: Had my share of crashes with my MBpro, not perfect but again it’s a personal preference, nobody or nothing is perfect in this world
ICesteam says:
lol.. yep keep your flames this is based on experience.. i just want to run mac os on my core 2 duo laptop though haha just dont have enough time and all those hoops and loops
Paul says:
Rule #8 strikes again! :(
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/ten-rules-for-buying-apple-products/
Windows 7 is actually a good idea on the Air, since it uses Flash/SSD memory Wndows 7 would run quite fast on it due to TRIM support.
Mac OS X 10.6 doesn’t have TRIM support yet.
Dan says:
A friend of mine, A Mac fanatic and sort of pro technician, told me to wait for a while before buying Mac Air. The first batches comes with a bug/defect in the logic board/logic system resulting to some serious performance issues. I’ll probably wait until 2011 Q2 before buying the Mac Air just so they can clear out their supposedly defective stocks. As a general rule, I usually don’t rush on buying devices/gadgets straight from launching in order to sieve issues and so that I can buy when the price is right already.
JunJun says:
Wala ako Macbook. Huh?
Manix says:
Maybe @Dan is right. Wife’s got an iMac and macbook, and she havent experienced the crashes, and no system lags (she’s using it for web design applications).
we use and maintain both Mac and Windows, to utilize the best of both worlds.
hi abe, you might want to call apple support and complain about the crashes.
john says:
hey any thoughts on Ubuntu as an alternative to OSX?
Abe Olandres says:
@dan – actually, I waited for the Macbook Air to mature so it took me this 3rd generation to jump in.
Cake says:
I also find it very unusual that you get crashes. What’s the nature of these crashes? What were you running?
A lot of the slowdowns and crashes on OSX are due to Flash. Flash on OSX is just horrendous since forever. It’s especially bad on sites with flash ads. Got Flashblock on Firefox and everything’s smooth sailing again.
Dan says:
Actually, my previous post was really meant for the current gen Mac Air. According to my friend, the technician, the first batches of Mac Air had issues so its better to wait out ’till next year. But I do agree that the current Mac Airs are theoretically better and more aesthetically pleasing. ;)
NemOry says:
whaha. .ang dami mu na sigurong Laptop sir Abe guess ko more than 50 laptops?and more than 15 desktops?hehe. .and 100+ phones?hehe. . .yung apple wala talaga virus, peru I heard some rumor na there is 2 virus in Mac, but only 2, hehe. .
Jam. says:
oh noes!. Planning to buy a MB pro 13″ this 2011 :(
Joshua M says:
LOL personally I would get Macs for mobility, but for desktops I still will get a PC.
Sige what will you do with your laptop? majority mag dadala ng laptop sa isang wifi hotspot mag FB, browse browse browse, read blogs and stuff. so mobility go for MAC. Heavy duty stuff? Gaming? Go desktop, tapos.
No Name says:
I used Windows about 6 months. Then i buy an iMac 24″. Then never back to Windows again because its so horrible OS. Always crashes, you need to restart, error here and there, freezing… and etc that you can name of. I never return to Windows again. Haven’t any problem using iMac and MacBook Pro. Just Safari quits for some Flash error something… I never turn off my MacBook Pro, i just close the lid after using then put it in the bag. Unlike Windows base laptop before that it never sleep, its like what Abe’s experience… it can cook pancake.
bobis says:
pangarap kong MBA 11″. i could actually buy one or two, cash, pero hindi kaya ng puso ko. hehehe
maybe next year when i hit my $1000 income. at sana next year wala na yang pinagsasasabing bugs bugs na yan.
astig ang MacOS, inutil ang IOS. haha
lolipown says:
should’ve gone with the MBP
Paul says:
@yuga
For the 13″ Macbook Air, yeah, it’s the third generation.
But for the 11″ Macbook Air which you have, it’s the first time Apple made a notebook of that size.
Cake says:
Even if it’s the first 11 inch Macbook air out, it’s still third gen.
I still doubt it’s a hardware issue. Or if it is, it should be isolated. I saw a somone use an 11-inch as the heart of a three-monitor setup and he said it runs like fine.
kenok says:
@Jam
A MacBook Pro is a different beast than the anemic MacBook Air.
Robin says:
I am not experiencing any of the same problems. You may want to have it checked. Maybe it got damage when it fell and got banged on the side of a table. I have a third generation MBA for more than a month now, and am not experiencing any of the problems you have.
As for the Mac OSX. This is my first Mac. I like it fine. I do not love it. But I am O.S. neutral… this is being type from a HP Compaq laptop running Ubuntu 10.10 and I use Windows too :)
Elbert says:
New machines tend to have problems that are fixed gradually. Make sure to install the latest updates. If it does not solve the problem, install Win 7. Although, that may cause more problems than solutions.
michael says:
Windows 7
Windows 8
Windows 9
Windows X (10.0 – Poodle)
Windows X (10.1 – Cocker Spaniel)
Windows X (10.2 – Greyhound)
Windows X (10.3 – Saint Bernard)
Windows X (10.4 – Labrador Retriever)
Windows X (10.5 – Dalmatian)
Windows X (10.6 – Snow Dalmatian)
^_^ says:
Still I am a PC. Windows 7 works best at Mac Book Air since it uses flash drives.
kenok says:
@Yuga
I think there’s an EFI firmware update… for the MBAs. You should check. :P
rhyantiangco says:
I have MBP C2D. I like OS X but it is not perfect. I get the crashes especially when i’m using graphics editting software coupled with net browsers and photo browser. I still use windows in the office and would not have a second thought of buying a desktop when budget permits. But OS X is still faster compared to Win7. As for the crashes and not going into sleep mode, You should have your unit checked at Digital Hub in viramall.
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Paul says:
What Robin said.
Could be the sleep sensor when you close the lid got faulty when you dropped your Air.
eugenep says:
I have the same issue with crashes with my 2 month-old iMac. It’s usually the “kernel panic” and need to restart.
Papi says:
then you didnt bought the right mac for you.:)
and PS: dont open ALL applications at once. HAHAHH
giogz says:
Sir yuga coz apple products suck. I have an ipod touch 4 at buggy nya super. Pinagcchan q tong binili q. Prend q dn may macbook nagrereklamo dn xa kc ilang mos pa lang nagloloko na. Hehehe. Happy new year sa lahat
Abe Olandres says:
@cake – mostly doing blogging stuff only — Safari, Chrome, iPhoto, iMovie, MS Word/Excel or reading PDF. The machine freezes from sleep (no mouse cursor), iPhoto crashed once or twice after importing photos from my Canon dSLR, Finder acts up sometimes. Yeah, Flash might have something to do with it (I run a statistics page in the background all the time).
@kenok – already did the EFI update a month ago.
@papi – my previous machine has an even lower specs than the Air.
@paul – I experienced that both on my Windows machine and the Mac. The lid problem only happened twice.
@giogz – i own an iPhone 4, 3G, 2 Apple TVs, iPad and half a dozen iPods — all worked perfectly.
Manix says:
Ya Abe, this might be an isolated case, either when u dropped the unit, or problem with the unit. You’re still within warranty period, maybe they can replace it.
Jhay says:
Hats off to the Apple fanboys here so far, it’s been a constructive and mature thread. :)
Like Abe said, no machine or OS is perfect. What I really look forward to is Abe’s personal feedback on using Ubuntu Linux in the near future. That would be something for the history books.
Rom says:
Experiences vary per user. For this case, the machine might be a lemon considering that his experiences cannot be duplicated easily. If it weren’t an isolated case, then most users will have the same experiences.
Mac is not for everyone. Get the one that works best for you. In my case, I use a Mac – the household is predominantly using Macs. I have Linux that works as a cheap file server. Windows 7 is on a separate partition on a netbook – running it only for those *stupid* manufacturers of mobile phones that don’t provide desktop software versions for the Mac!
Reviews like this should be taken with a grain of salt. Try it out yourself. Check the reviews before buying. If you find a majority of reviews citing problems, then stay away from the product.
enuhski says:
I coexist with windows and mac.
– i use a fairly ancient PC at the office for work and just bring my iPad
– at home, my macbook sort of doubles as a glorified wifi router since i use my iPad mostly at home also
here are some additional things i hope you can take a look at:
1) searching for files – have you tried this on a mac? you’ll find how amazingly easy and fast it is. the upside on my office PC is that i’m super organized with my files because i can’t rely on its search function which will take hours. :P
2) crashes – i walk on eggshells when i use a PC and i consciously make sure i don’t open too many applications lest it crashes. on a mac, yes i experience crashes and quite frequently too, with how i use my laptop for blogging, opening at least 10 windows on a single web browser, etc. the difference is, based on my experience is that on a PC it’s harder to recover from a crash, from bootup all the way to recovery.
3) wake from sleep – ah well, that happens to me too. not sure if it can be done on a PC without driving your hard drive to suicide.
i seriously doubt it’s your OS. i’ve been using a mac for the past 8 or so years and i still use a PC for work. i know the difference between the two in terms of OS. if the problems you are having are that serious, or if you just feel incredibly let down because of all the hype you heard about the mac, then the best solution is to get your laptop checked.
which brings me to one more important wonderful thing about macs, hardware or software wise:
after sales support is excellent. if it’s defective, it will be replaced. at most, within a month since everything goes through singapore. how many can say that about a PC? (and i’ve listened to my friends’ rants patiently over the years – once their PC is busted servicing is doubtful, expensive, and there’s little quality assurance. i personally don’t want to bring my busted computer to an unknown PC shop for cheaper service simply because i have no reliable warranty from the brand that sells the PC to rely on)
in any case, of course the pressure must be strong for you to switch mac considering this is a tech site and apple is the undisputed tech leader at this juncture. there are plenty of alternatives, even to the windows OS and i wish you the best of luck. sayang lang, though, if you give up on the mac without even fully understanding how it works and what its potential could be. :)
Jay says:
@enuhski: very well said :)
Abe Olandres says:
@Rom – I’ve always wanted to switch to a Mac since the first Macbook Air about 2 years ago. This is the first one I ever owned. Apple Singapore has consistently sent me review units for years now but only this time I have encountered the problems.
@enuhski – this is not meant to be a review but a personal experience. As such, it reflects my personal accounts of me using the Mac for over 2 months straight.
BeerBoy says:
I am an avid gamer. Mac is out of the question.
CCCC says:
Same experience here. Too many crashes on Mac OS X than on Windows 7. But heck, I love my Mac. The first time I saw a white Macbook, I instantly fell in love with it. Without knowing anything about Macs hardware nor software, I just wanted to buy a Mac right then and there. And so I bought a Mac Unibody. I was really happy buying the Mac and experiencing the hardware and software wonders that came with it especially the newly then glass trackpad. The trackpad was a heaven sent. The mouse suddenly became alien to me and never used a mouse again when I’m on OS X. Personally, it was the Mac’s hardware that attracted me to buy a Mac. But when Windows 7 came to the world, and with the one-of-a-kind ability of the Macs to install a Windows partition, I didn’t hesitate to install Windows 7 on my Mac. It was a different story after installing Windows 7. It’s like a new Macbook after. It’s like having the best of both worlds. It’s the best thing that happened to any computer user for that matter. I use Windows 7 mainly because I play games and there are softwares that aren’t available on OS X. But if only for browsing and energy saving, I use OS X because it boots up and turns off faster than Windows and also power consumption on OS X is better than on Windows. So for me, if you know what you want to do with your computer may it be hardware or software-wise, it doesn’t matter if it’s a PC or an Apple. Because I love Apple products (iPhone 4, iPod, Mac) but I also love Windows products (Windows XP and Windows 7). So there. :)
caloy says:
Kung di lang mahal ang mac na try ko na yan…hirap mag hackintosh sa netbook ko
kenok says:
Pansin ko dami nag-came to the rescue in this Mac topic.
Heh.
Honestly, meron talagang minamalas with Apple products and my brother is one.
Nick says:
Well atleast when an app crashes on a mac other apps don’t get affected. Personally, after almost 2 years of prefering Mac OS X I only got a negligible number of app crashes (usually Safari). Several kernel panics, but of my own fault. Psychologically, I feel much more productive in OSX, especially with photoshop, indesign, and cinema 4D. Then again, I still use Windows 7 when I play SC2. When I’ll get a netbook, I’ll run it on Ubuntu :)
Cake says:
@Beerboy
Lots of the newer games coming out for Windows have OSX ports. And now that Steam is on OSX, lots of existing Steam games are getting ported as well. Although yeah, very few MMOs apart from WoW and those already on the Steam network.
lolipown says:
just to be clear guys, what’s crashing on your end? An application running on OS X/Windows? Or the OS itself?
Robin says:
@Nick Sounds like a good idea, if you run a Mac, Ubuntu is not all that different (unless you run the Netbook Edition with the new Unity desktop), and it should run pretty fast on a netbook. The most RAM I have managed to get it to use with a dozen programs running is a bit under 700MB.
Andro Umali says:
I think the benefits cited by many people come from higher=specced macbooks from the white macbook up to the 17 inch Pro models. But OSX should work as effectively with the Air as any of the other models, since after all Apple develops everything. Hmmm. The Air is so sexy though.
Rom says:
@Abe after dropping it? I wonder what that kind of a drop would do to your beloved PC. :D
Anyway, this is an isolated case – would love to help you troubleshoot it. Haven’t experienced a crash on a Mac in a looooonnnngggg time. However, looking back, did you re-install the OS or simply used it straight out of the box? Basic troubleshooting should identify the real issue and I doubt if it is Mac OS X – I suspect that it is Adobe Flash! Hahaha. I kid, but the possibility is there, of course.
One more thing – kung di uukol, di bubukol. You might not be the target demographics of Mac OS X, nor, I believe, you will be Linux’s. :)
Happy New Year, good ole friend! :)
Abe Olandres says:
@rom – I actually did not completely dropped it since I was able to catch midway. It banged against the side table though with minor scratches. My old Acer Timeline went thru worse with at least 2 major drops from my bed.
The issues started fresh out of the box and was also the same with 2 other people I convinced to get the MacAir.
Robin says:
There is this issue about the 11.6-inch Macbook Air’s hinge not being as durable as its 13-inch brother… but the lid issue is not your main problem.
I did not install flash in my MBA. Might be that.
johnniee B says:
using Windows for almost 10 years and my pc never crashes nor freezes. i’m a Computer Science professional so i know the work-about on how to tame Windows not to crash
AsCot says:
been using macbook pro latest model since april 2010. i had 2 crashes so far. pretty decent for me. battery life is superb. i can surf the net and watch movie and still have 50% of my power after that. windows? you poop on that because by the time the liv tyler is removing her bra, your power is down to 1%!!!
I still use windows though that’s why i have a bootcamp!
em zarate says:
i have the same experience as you… sadly switching to OSX was not any different for me compared to win7.
regarding viruses – the reason i get viruses is through my own negligence, more specifically i get them from malicious torrents that i forcefully tell myself to down… viruses on any windows machine can easily be avoided even without an anti virus
regarding crashes – both OSX and Win7 crash at some point or another, but both are pretty stable IMO. if your win7 keeps on crashing… check your hardware and “bloatware”
regarding battery life – admittedly win7 is a resource hog compared to OSX. i wish win7 was more optimized to run on lesser resources
however i will make the switch in the coming months. not because i have problems with win7, but rather i have problems with the hardware that runs it (sub par LCD screen, lack of QC to name a few) however i have no plans on giving up on win7. i actually plan to run bootcamp on my future machine and use that as my main OS *hoping stability issues will be fixed by then*
tydez says:
i never had a mac although i would love to have one…regarding your trouble with putting your hardware to sleep…you should always wait for the process to complete going to sleep mode before closing the lid…closing it midway disrupts that process hence the freezing on startup…or just turning of only the lcd when you close the lid too early…and defragmenting your files is a major factor in easy startup coming from a hibernate mode…having an organized directory of files makes your pc find itself where it left off…
Ethan says:
Windows 7 has so far crashed on me on only one occasion, and that was because of some 10.1 Flash glitch. Also experienced an OSX problem because of Flash.
Both systems are excellent really. It all boils down to preference if you pick one.
As for me, the 13-inch MBP is still the king of notebooks. Top-notch hardware and construction, and great OS.
For my workstation at home, nothing beats my assembled rig running Windows 7.
BrianB says:
Palagay ko FF issue yan. Ang FF sa Mac ko patay na talaga. Whatever I do, re-install, installing early version, doesn’t help.
Why you don’t get viruses… You probably don’t surf for pron too often.
Vance says:
there are issues with the macbook air (newer model) diba?…
@abe hindi kaya dipende sa macbook yan, baka sa Air lang, have you tried the bigger brothers. hehe
Darel says:
I’m also a recent switcher (Switched to an i7 4GB MBP with 500GB HDD) and aside from the hard disk problems (fixed by yours truly,) I’m enjoying the Mac. I dabble in the graphic arts and I find myself running Sims 3 and Photoshop together without a hiccup. Ditto too with StarCraft 2 and Photoshop on Windows. The jealous looks from my colleagues is just icing on the cake.
Jason says:
Nice :) For me, I seldom experience crashes, actually YES on Firefox and Safari + Flash.
Not sure about the Mac laptops not sleeping when the lid’s closed, haven’t experienced them; after having 2 Macbooks, 2 Macbook Pros and 1 Macbook Air.
I really like the ‘sleep’ feature. The MBPs I’m currently using for work, I seriously doesn’t shut them down. On one case, it took about 6months before it had it’s first restart.
Raypin says:
…not running the latest MBA but my 2 year old first-gen MBA works just fine. No problem at all, except for the tendency to overheat when running videos (like youtube). Extremely rare crashes. It’s a solid platform and I see no reason why this experience will not carry over with the latest MBA. And, yes, I’m a proud user of Apple (member of Philmug)………..and Microsoft products. he he he…
Pepe says:
The two benefits of Mac stated above are also benefits of using Linux; and Linux is free
lolipown says:
@Pepe
and yet for some reason linux is stuck at the lowest end of the consumer market in terms of market share. Imagine that.
alex says:
ive got a macbook air for a year and a half now and lately i have experienced difficulties when online. whenever i use iphoto it freezes after awhile of using . other application also crashes all of the sudden when used like ym. by the way, i also dont know why my microsoft doesnt load when hit. the icon is there though.
allan says:
I’m not a mac user so I planned to buy my first macbook pro maybe within the next month, only to experience the OSX…i just read the rumors that Macbook Pro will be updating in mid-april… so should I wait for the updated MBP or I just rush to buy it beacuse I can’t wait?
Arvin says:
I am a Mac user for 12 years. Yun ang gamit namin sa office. Pero pag bibili ako PC ang choice ko. MAC kasi ang mahal, at halos mga games na gusto ko ay pang PC. Ang hirap din maghanap ng softwares, drivers, etc. na pang mac.
adam says:
My bro owns a Mac so far wala naman sya reklamo. Nagustuhan ko sa mac is yung battery life.
angelo says:
I also experienced your problem, I have about 5~7 crash on macos than win7 running on booth camp. I got the mbp 2011 edition. macos could run for about 6~7 hours if you only surf the web and not downloading anything. on win7 it registers about 4~5 hours no matter how minimal your computing may be. but I find win7 is more stable than mac os,5~7 on my mac for a week, but when Im running bootcamp(win7) I find it much stabler. even running games.
I find myself waiting for the spinning rainbow wheel to much, while on win7 it was fine as long as you keep it up to date.
its funny because macosx is designed to run on apple devices while win7 is designed to run on most devices but find it much stabler running win7 on apple notebook.
I am using computer for more than 15 years, and just bought a mac 2 months ago and I have more crashes on my mac than my previous laptop even Sum it all up(clone desktop,ibm,hp,acer,compaq,lenovo).