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Ronnie Bulaong August 22, 2012 · 2 min read

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Apple Inc. has been involved in numerous patent lawsuits against its competitors. One of its most recent and controversial one, is the patent lawsuit against Samsung. As the trial comes to a close, we want to whose side are you taking?

Weâ€™re not going to discuss the technicalities of the trial, but in a nutshell Apple’s patent lawsuit against Samsung revolves around two things, Design and User Interface.

In terms of design, we have to agree devices involved in this trial (25 to be exact, including the Galaxy S and S2) do bare resemblance to Apple’s design in some degree but not entirely. Regarding the user interface, Apple claims that Samsung copied three of their patented technologies for the TouchWiz UI which involves multiple gestures scrolling, zooming and panning and â€œscrollbackâ€.

Samsung isnâ€™t just going away without a fight as they also file a patent lawsuit against the Cupertino company which involves infringing their patent over 3GPP and Utility technologies and using it on the iPhone and iPad.

Photo credit: Joy of Tech

Of course with any other lawsuit there’s always money involved. The stakes are high for both companies. If proven guilty, Appleâ€™ asking a total over $2 billion from Samsung for the damages that the patent infringement has caused. As for Samsung, the South Korean tech giant’s asking price for their patent lawsuit is little over USD14 for every iPhone and iPad sold worldwide. iPad units sold alone amass to approximately 67 million as of April of this year, so go figure.

The case was stated, the evidences were presented, and closing arguments were said; now it’s up to the jury to decide whether or not the Samsung is guilty of infringing Apple’s patents or the other way around. It’s going to be interesting to see the outcome of this trial.

Update: A jury just handed down a guilty verdict against Samsung and ordered the company to pay Apple damages to the amount of $1 billion. – Yuga

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160 Comments

deadpool · 14 years ago

hahaha talo samsung. gaya gaya kasi eh! buti nga. bayad kayo ng 1 Billion USD.

Papapau · 14 years ago

wala tayong magagawa sa opinyon at pananaw mo sa issueng to bata. Tingin mo all original iphone mo eh no? Di mo nakikita na inaabuso lang ng Apple ang broken patent system sa US. Patented rectangular round-corner my a**..

Ignorance is bliss tol.

Whiz · 14 years ago

Hala talo samsung!! Si Harvey Specter siguro kinuha ng apple ahaha

coachjojoc · 14 years ago

And with Mike Ross handling the case research, no way Apple can lose. Pearson Hardman rocks!

Tujon · 14 years ago

I hope they both lose so my Optimus L7 doesnâ€™t look bad. I applied for an event on LG facebook page. Hopefully, I can win another one for my girlfriend or it I could win 4X HD for her, it will be superb.

coachjojoc · 14 years ago

Samsung doesn’t give a hoot about its phones. It gets a fat subsidy from the Korean government and its main products are its chips and lcds.

And on a personal side: ang pinakabastos ay ang mga Koreano. I’ve seen how they treat their “sub-species” workers.

rfc · 14 years ago

jury wins, imagine brand new MacBooks for them, new iPads, maybe even the iPhone 5.

Ang · 14 years ago

APPLE wins! http://live.cnet.com/Event/Apple_vs_Samsung_verdict

Von · 14 years ago

21 hrs of deliberation… was the court american?

Papapau · 14 years ago

And consumers lose.. Happy ka? Haha! Di nagiisip.

Patent · 14 years ago

patent wars and troll wars – so non-sense, only lawyers gain something.

dyonisii · 14 years ago

i’m for samsung.

a deck of cards is rectangular with rounded corners. they existed long before the iphone.

the palm pilot had icons to represent apps. palm pilots existed before the iphone.

some palm pilots did not have physical keyboards.

apple’s retina display is just marketing. more subpixels in a low-res screen.

touch screen is just innovation/improvement over the use of a stylus.

apple is just over reacting. in fact they hate android so much they’d prolly do anything to kill android. steve jobs said so.

mark · 14 years ago

letting apple win is like killing the blessing of technology and innovation.

also, their patents are way too general, that they resemble elements that can be easily found in nature, available to everyone.

rene · 14 years ago

remember the mouse that the Xerox company invented for the PC desktop… everybody is now using it… Steve Job copied it… Xerox did not complain about it… because everybody benefited… Everybody is benefiting from Apple and Samsung… So why kill the goose that laid the golden egg… These two Giant companies are just plain selfish…

Edwin C · 14 years ago

Ako side ako doon sa mananalo.

Stephen Kingston · 14 years ago

This is the most stupid article that I have ever read in this website! This is an obvious attempt to start a troll war! GET A BRAIN, RONNIE BULAONG!

Chris · 14 years ago

It is evident that Apple revolutionized the touchscreen, and with all due respects to the other camp, I surely think that Samsung has copied much from it. In fact, Samsung has been doing this for many years already. One example would be the era the of the dual-sliding Nokia N95 where Sammy also created their own version of the trade.

Google has already warned them of the possibility of lawsuits with the way they designed their handsets (Galaxy S, S2?) and hence they are now in the thick of it.

I like Samsung as a brand, but my side is with Cupertino this time.

thecorrescode · 14 years ago

I can’t help it but to side with Samsung. Yes, they may have copied the design of iPhone with their Galaxy S, but with Galaxy SII and their latter phones, obviously magkaiba. Imposibleng magkamali ang buyer sa size pa lang ng S2.

Problem lang kasi, masyadong broad ang patent description ni Apple. Biruin mo, they even patent the shape. So ibig sabihin ba nun, other manufacturer should develop a STAR-SHAPE phones, kasi yung rectangle is owned by Apple already.

Even the SLIDE-TO-UNLOCK is very different from Android’s PATTERN-UNLOCK. Obvious naman eh.

Even the touchwiz UI is a different thing. Meron lang si Apple is series of icons sa ibaba ng screen and shortcuts, while touchwiz has widgets and multiple homescreens, customizable pa.

Obviously, Apple fear competition. When Galaxy S3 was released, they immediately file for injunction, buti na lang nadenied.

thecorrescode · 14 years ago

Sample of how Apple BROADLY claims everything
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8858333/Apple-takes-on-German-cafe-over-logo.html . Even New York is being sued for the Big Apple.

Jacob · 14 years ago

I am slightly sympathetic to samsung only because apple’s demands are plain outrageous. Their contention is that sales have been irreparably harmed by samsung’s copycat ways. The truth is, all their sales figures seem to suggest otherwise. And number two, who the f*ck is dumb enough to buy a samsung android phone thinking it was an apple iphone?? All you have to do is look at the back for that apple logo. I’m with THECORRESCODE here. When you’re spending 30k up for a gadget, is it really so inconvenient to take the time to look at box and see if it says apple or samsung?

Apple didn’t revolutionize the touchscreen. They revolutionized the way people viewed the smartphone. No longer was it for suits with power meetings and power lunches (whatever those are). Instead, he showed what the masses could do with a smartphone if they had one. Admittedly, having a full touchscreen made it easier for people to accept the smartphone as more than a business tool. Still, it isn’t the touchscreen that is on trial. It’s the use of the rectangular shape with rounded corners. And they have a patent for that. No, seriously, they do.They wanted 2.5B from samsung to be able to use the rectangle.

Samsung’s wireless patents, on the other hand, have more substance. And even apple accepts that they have to pay royalties. HOwever, samsung’s demands were, according to Apple, similarly outrageous, and apple countered that it was too high and should be lower. And 2.5B for a rectangle isn’t?

To be clear, of the 2.5B demanded by apple, some of those were for the bounce on overscroll, and some other scrolling/navigation stuff, but the bulk of that demand was for “design patents.” That is to say, for the use of the rectangle and possibly squarish icons on a grid. 24$ per unit for the design patents alone vs 14$ per unit for samsung’s wireless patents. Now tell me, who’s being the d!ck?

With that said, I’m on the side of the consumer. That is to say, this farce should never have gone to trial and should have been sorted out outside the courtroom. And the US patent system needs some serious overhaul, especially with regards to software patents and the ever vague “design patents.”

oldmanjenkins · 14 years ago

i’m for samsung!!

phil · 14 years ago

Who said that the first galaxy tab was DOA when released? Guess who’s going to jump into the 7″ tab market..

Who said that 3.5″ is just the perfect size for mobile phones? Guess who’s following Samsung for it’s screen sizes..

Fleeb · 14 years ago

You will see how cognitive dissonance works if Apple releases versions of iPad and iPhone with a different screen size. Remember how people glorified those -perfect- sizes because Jobs said so? They will still do even if Apple releases a 7″ table and an iPhone with a bigger screen. I do remember Bulaong wrote something saying to imply that the size of the current iPhones are ergonomic considerations. I do not know what he will say should that change.

3pper · 14 years ago

For additional news regarding this case: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-sleeping-giant-may-have-awoken/

thecorrescode · 14 years ago

Siri is an innovation? WTF… All Apple did was buy the company, and bake Siri application into iOS and claim it as new. Similar existing application like Vlingo and SpeakToIt has been available to Android way before Siri was introduced by iOS. And by the way, thanks to Siri, Apple has now a technology to support their patent (unified search). Trollness at its finest.

You even consider retina display as innovation? Come on, it is just LCD with higher pixel and nothing more. It is not even Apple’s technology to begin with, but LGs.

iPod is nothing more than just another MP3 player. All Apple did was to make a hype out of it.

And proximity sensor, isn’t those already in existence before Apple’s. And Microsoft own the patent…

Marcelino · 14 years ago

Amen to that!

ishi · 14 years ago

If Apple will win expect the overpriced of their product.

Gman · 14 years ago

The jury are all Americans. Need to say more?

Free Innovations · 14 years ago

Samsung wins:
For “free world” innovations. Democracy prevails.

Apple loses:
Tyranny has gives way to Democracy

Jayson · 14 years ago

whoever wins – consumers will suffer at the end.

innovation will end if apple wins

i’m on Samsung’s side – i worked in samsung, has a phone and tablet from them also so go figure

Christian Pungtilan · 14 years ago

Apple side but..

Design wise and considering that some apple chip set are from
Samsung they can “copy” since they know what apple products are made of. I’m not really following this patent war, but the the ‘rectangular’ issue against Samsung is baseless. It’s like Samsung should make phones and
tablets in other shape.

djk · 14 years ago

i feel both are great companies.
sum1 has 2 lead
sum1 has 2 follow
i side with what helps the masses = samsung, htc, sony, etc.
sum1 wil start clear glass touch phnes seen in avengers
then again sum1 has 2 follow..
:-)

Papapau · 14 years ago

Yup, and the one they followed first doesn’t necessarily mean they will remain as bar raisers..

Sino ba gumagaya sa features now? sino yung magpapalaki ng screen? magiimplement ng LTE?

Steve has done this twice, start a new market then he would turn out to be a follower din naman. hehe.

Well, this happens to every organizations naman..

Werner Larrobis · 14 years ago

If apple wins, the free OS, the open source idea of the android will take a big hit. The real revolutionary in our time is not Steve Jobs with his cult like showmanship, but closed and his hipocracy regarding his OS that beats its chest in screaming that it will let you free yet crushes you with limiting what you can do to a product that you pay for. The Android OS is a true and silent revolution in itself, letting everyone who has ever had contact with it the freedom to do and to mold it and themselves to what ever they want to. From changing the way their phones work, look and feel to literally do everything from something as simple as letting it be a memory stick, to the android smartphone that can be a movie player, to sharing anything one can think of to friends and family… The IOS cannot and will not allow you to do even a simple exchange of photos or even video clips, memories we cherish we can share via an android phone can be shared to any one or anything even not android phones, be it symbian, or blackberry or a pc.

paco · 14 years ago

This lawsuit is not over yet cause the losing side will appeal to the higher court and will continue appealing until they reach the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court will then issue the final verdict in regard to this lawsuit.

Hopefully, Apple should win this lawsuit; otherwise, Apple will lose the mobile market share to Android branded phones just like Apple loses the market share of PC to Microsoft in the 90’s after the Supreme Court sided with Microsoft in Apple’s lawsuit against Microsoft.

phil · 14 years ago

I don’t get your reason why Apple should win this case. Whoever loses the case would definitely take a big hit in the market share.

paco · 14 years ago

@phil If Apple didn’t introduce the Iphone then all our smartphones will definite have a physical keyboard on it. Aside from that, Google will then tend to copy Blackberry design.

http://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild

Papapau · 14 years ago

“If Apple didnâ€™t introduce the Iphone then all our smartphones will definite have a physical keyboard on it.”

Oh really? so you can predict the alternate universe? cool powers you got there.

1st answer: So what about Samsung omnia, lg prada, etc.. ang mga high ends before iphone is full touch na right?

2nd answer: Progress in technology is inevitable. Steve just successfully made a market. di mo ba naisip na if hindi naging market yung iphones eh mas maganda pa sana na-present ng ibang innovators? e.g. straight to “GOOGLE GLASS”.

Go figure Mr. Prophet.

Glen · 14 years ago

the first full touch screen phone wasn’t the iphone. It was from HTC, the HTC TOUCH!

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/emre/archive/2007/06/16/htc-touch-the-world-s-first-touch-phone.aspx

released before the iphone….. :)

paco · 14 years ago

“Oh really? so you can predict the alternate universe? cool powers you got there.”

That is what you call deductive reasoning.

LG Prada got their design ideas from the numerous sources posted on the net ranging from rumors like full screen Ipod to patents pertaining to Iphone and touchscreen.

http://skattertech.com/2006/03/full-screen-ipod-4-real/

http://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2006/02/6212-2/

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/timeline-apple-iphone-rumors-1999-present

http://guides.macrumors.com/Gallery_of_iPhone_Patents

http://www.theyshoulddothat.com/2006/08/apples_touchscreen_ambitions_1.html

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/06/07/20/inside_apples_latest_ipod_touch_screen_patent_filing.html

For Samsung Omnia and HTC Touch, they were announced after Apple introduced the Iphone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Omnia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Touch

For the rest of the cellphones with touchscreen, They are based on Apple Newton and Steve Job’s 1983 version of Iphone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Newton

http://mashable.com/2011/12/30/apple-iphone-1983/

FU · 14 years ago

Binayaran ata ng Apple ang loko na ito eh. Eat sh*t apple fanboy.

crimson · 14 years ago

And have you seen thow mac book pro look alikes from HP, Acer, Sony etc ? People don’t realize that Apple perhaps spent millions of dollars studying those designs, analyzed how people use their phones or for notebooks, best way to utilize keyboards so that it’s enjoyable and useful for everyone before mass producing it and then someone else will just copy that ? Go and figure that out.

Papapau · 14 years ago

haay eto nanaman isa pa..

So you really are convinced na all original ang iPhones? Pre watch this please. parang awa. hehe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU&feature=player_embedded

Then think about those innovators whom Apple stole from, including Xerox for GUI. Spent millions of dollars studying those designs… …for everyone before mass producing those then Apple just copied that.. but wait.. Boy did Apple patented those things they didn’t really invented.

Prior art ang tawag dun pre.. diba mas malala yun? ginawa nila ng libre, inangkin at pinagkakaperahan ng apple? tapos mga Anghel tingin mo sa kanila? haha!

Go figure.

Crimson · 14 years ago

Samsung copied Apple period. Go and figure out from the time that Samsung came out with their own Smartphone til the time that Apple released theirs. And no, they are not douchebag. They are only protected what they created first. They were the first ones to introduce capacitive screens, when everyone else is using resistive screens, first ones to use accelerometer and everyone followed and first to use all icons on a phone and it just works and then everyone wants to copy it. It’s like seeing a Ford Fiesta on the road with a Cherry tag on it. That’s how I see it.

tarush · 14 years ago

Apple side…

You just go through the history of Apple and Samsung products, even a child would know which are the copycats.

We Filipinos love things that are free, even the things that are considered illegal (‘free’ download of music, movies and paid apps, and when we are asked to buy for those items that we considered “free”, nagrereklamo tayo at ayaw nating magbayad…

That’s what Samsung did with the Apple products, why would they innovate when they could just copy Apple’s patents and sell affordable phones with iPhone like experience?

And they will be paying for what they did…big time.

The jury who would acquit Samsung would be considered blind or have no knowledge about patents at all…

garz · 14 years ago

Apple’s such a douchebag they want the whole smartphone market for themselves. Revolutionary, yes. But to say they own everything that iPhone has is so ridiculous.

They are actually raging against Android. But since Google is not selling Android, Apple sued the closest manufacturer they found: Samsung. Sammy’s products may look like an iPhone BUT THEY’RE NOT EXACTLY ALIKE. Apple doesn’t have a back and menu buttons.

Papapau · 14 years ago

Have you ever used a high end Android phone? As in actually use, not just swiping left and right like what you do on you dumbed down smartphone you call iPhone.

Before you reply, watch this analogy first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU&feature=player_embedded
Bet you won’t be replying anytime soon. hehe.

Stealing is good sabi ni Steve, shameless nyang ginagawa yun, pero not from him, nagagalit mga Apple fanboys. haha!

Why are they not paying for what they did?

And then tarush said the jury would be blind pag hindi sumagpi sa Apple. Di kaya ikaw ang blinded sa puting mansanas na logo? hehe

garz · 14 years ago

Apple’s claims are beyond ridiculous. They think they invented the rectangular shape. THey think they invented the home button. They think they invented the touchscreen.

Not a single f*** was given when Mercedez Benz, BMW, Audi, Mazda and Honda made vehicles with four wheels with a circular steering wheel and 6-speed gear. Same with refrigerators, televisions, washing machines, and ovens.

Samsung all the way!

Julius from RoundNew · 14 years ago

Ronnie, I must admit it is really tough to take the side of either one. I would normally side up with Apple because I see why they began this lawsuit in the first place.

But then again Samsung has to win because if it doesn’t then Samsung or any other company will have a tough time making mobile phones or tablets to satisfy every consumer.

I just want to see the two “kiss and make up”. They can discuss a small fee to be paid when a certain patent is used.

ishi · 14 years ago

Samsung side.
Because Samsung they know what consumer wants and needs. Remember Microsoft present before the tablet pc but its was copied by Apple and then claimed it.

Marcelino · 14 years ago

SAMSUNG.

I must admit, mas kampi ako sa Samsung kahit pa I own an iPhone 4S. Grabe ang Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note pag tinabi mo sa iPhone 4S. Madali kasi ako magsawa sa phones, so at that time, I decided to switch to an iPhone from Android.

Samsung – INNOVATIONS BEFORE MARKETING.
Apple – MARKETING. Period.

I might consider going back to Android. Depends on the Galaxy Note 2, Sony Xperia T or Motorola Droid Razr HD.

Ghost Riley · 14 years ago

@Marcelino

So you’re saying that the following are NOT innovations by Apple?

1. Proximity Sensor
2. Retina display
3. Siri
4. iPod (this killed Sony’s Walkman FYI)

And I have to agree with you. Apple is doing a great job marketing / promoting their products. But come to think of it, an awesome product is useless to a company if they can’t sell it. They need money.

Apple’s doing it right.

Marcelino · 14 years ago

@Ghost Riley

Those are NOT innovations.

Those are IMPROVEMENTS, coated with silly MARKETING strategies to make it look like it’s the “WORLD’S FIRST” or the “WORLD’S BEST”.

If they do innovations, how come they have to hire companies like SAMSUNG, LG, Sony, Sharp, etc. to do their hardware?

Isn’t it that innovations should be produced by APPLE itself?

For example. “Retina” display is not an innovation. It’s just a marketing gimmick to sound revolutionary. You just cramped the pixels into a small-sized screen. That’s it. Package it as “Retina”.

San ka naman nakarinig ng FOLED screen made by Apple? WALA. Yan. Yang ang innovation. Done by Samsung. Invented by Samsung.

Just my two cents.

jb · 14 years ago

I go with Samsung, all this patent wars are rather silly. Patent for a rectangle =d

Though I have to concede some interface patents were violated.

john · 14 years ago

Apple side, im using samsung galaxy nexus btw..

Dont be blind people, halata namang kinopya ng samsung ang apple nung unang mga release

Kirito · 14 years ago

Come on, Apple. Why don’t you just stop for a while and realize that Samsung is the one who manufactured some of your chips?

Habib · 14 years ago

Samsung

chinitoguy · 14 years ago

Additional comment. I don’t care who copies or what. What is important if a tech company like Samsung can make a better product out of Apple’s design as accused.

So far Samsung is doing a marvelous job on making good quality Android smartphones. A friend of mine who is an Apple iPhone and iPad got curious of Samsung Galaxy SIII and Samsung Galaxy Tab 2. He lends a common friend’s Galaxy SIII and Tab 2 for a week. After that he disposed his iPhone 4s and iPad 3 and bought a Galaxy SIII and Tab2. He even bought a Nokia Lumia 800 for his second line. He has amazed how fast Windows Phone is.

Kit · 14 years ago

Samsung side all the way.

Justin · 14 years ago

“Regarding the user interface, Apple claims that Samsung copied three of their patented technologies for the TouchWiz UI which involves multiple gestures scrolling, zooming and panning and â€œscrollbackâ€.”

Seriously? Wow! So in effect, Apple is saying that you can only move your fingers that way on our iPads… and on no other tablet! What a stupid patent.

Whiz · 14 years ago

Hmmm.., I am currently watching SUITS.., what a great SERIES..,

I can see this as more on MONEY,FAME,MARKET SHARE,CREDIBILITY…, for APPLE..,

neojohan · 14 years ago

This will end up like Apple VS Microsoft. Sooner or later they will be partners.

Mark Chistian Lopez · 14 years ago

“Picasso had a saying – ‘Good artists copy, great artists steal.’ And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas.” – Steve Jobs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU&feature=player_embedded

(You owe me a giveaway for this awesome comment. A Nexus 7 or Note 5000mAh battery will be nice. ;) )

vince · 14 years ago

“If Apple ends up winning this case against Samsung â€” and either stops Samsung from releasing their phones and tablets to the market, or charges them a hefty license fee to do so â€” does anyone really believe that the market will suddenly become more innovative, or that devices will suddenly become more affordable? Similarly, if Samsung wins, do you really believe that Apple will suddenly slow its aggressive development of the iPhone and iPad? It’s certainly not what happened last time they lost one of these cases. ”

http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120820/08193020097/even-if-samsung-apple-copied-every-last-detail-each-other-who-cares.shtml

taduL · 14 years ago

ShAMeSUNG side , Apple iPuke is a mess for me . I’m a fandroid :)

Guy Radaza · 14 years ago

The fact that Apple’s been using Samsung’s chips, they should instead pull out their accusations.

Digest · 14 years ago

I’m with Apple’s side.

Papapau · 14 years ago

Any viable or one sided comment goes along with that?

techie05 · 14 years ago

im with apple’s side… design, style, samsung just copied it.. just like how koreans copy tech from taiwan and others

Papapau · 14 years ago

Have you read about the trial?

Design, style, Apple just copied those.. And boy they successfully patented it!

ignorance is bliss pre.

Jesse Robredo · 14 years ago

Watch this dudes insights about apple’s litigation http://youtu.be/L1s_PybOuY0?t=5m6s

Noir · 14 years ago

Samsung Side

I cant seem to like a company that patents shape and patent trolls it to everyone. Good thing Apple seems to be the only company that did it.

imagine if others did it like Henry Ford.

When Henry Ford made his car then saw other manufacturers make cars that has similar designs from him.

He probably thought that “These guys are copying my style”.

Good thing instead of suing he went the other way which should be what apple should have done

He went with ” Ok lets make my next design better than all the others”

vince · 14 years ago

ever notice that the steering wheel, gas, brake and clutch are usually eerily similar in all cars? and is that a bad thing?

chinitoguy · 14 years ago

Of course SAMSUNG!!! Apple wants Google’s Android OS destroyed according to Apple’s founder Steve Jobs. Samsung is Google’s biggest and most successful client. They are now the No. 1 mobile phone maker and now poised to overtake Apple in the tablet business.

If Apple wins, Samsung will fall and others are next – HTC then LG then Sony. These are the other manufacturers who support Android.

Microsoft’s Windows Phone 7.5 OS has a small market. But I find their OS very amazing! I own a Nokia Lumia 800 and I’m excited to see the new Lumias with Windows Phone 8. For now it cannot stand a chance against Apple’s iOS with more than 600,000 apps vs Windows Phone with 100,000 apps.

Samsung MUST WIN!

Ramon · 14 years ago

First of all, I don’t follow the patent wars, but I do occasionally read articles about it. Let me know if I have some facts wrong on this :-)

I want you agree with you and side with samsung on this one, but there are too much evidence that samsung tried to copy apple… (interface wise, I find the physical appearance “copying” completely ridiculous) Really disappointed :-(

Samsung needs to face the consequence, but the billions being demanded by apple is completely idiotic and it was definitely out of greed, they want samsung out of the competition and they’re trying to make some money out of it -_-

Personally, I think they should have ended it with a settlement and leave it at that… But I guess both sides are too arrogant and greedy to agree on a truce >_>

Btw, I don’t think apple would ever think of going against sony. The iphone 4/4s was based on a sony concept, a lawsuit against sony would easily backfire lol

Ghost Riley · 14 years ago

@chinitoguy

What would you feel if someone copied your design? And then make billions out of it?

chinitoguy · 14 years ago

@Ghost Riley – Its is simple. I HATE APPLE. Nuff said.

@ Ramon – Its is simple. Sony manufactures Android phones. Sony’s concept design was years ago. Now Apple has its own designers and Sony’s competitor Sharp is are the ones manufacturing the screen panels for iPhone. True it may backfire on Apple but lawyers has its ways.

As for greed, every business whether food, services, consumer electronics the all want one thing PROFIT. making money out of everything is their goal. What I care about is they make sure their products are of excellent quality.