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dotPH naggamit og PR aron ipangatarungan ang presyo sa domain

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Usa ka email nga gisend kanako sa usa ka kasaligan nga tinubdan nag-istorya og bag-ong istorya bahin sa domain Registry/Registrar dot.PH nga nakigbatok sa usa ka Public Relations agency aron ipasabot ngano nga ang mga PH domain nagkantidad gihapon og $35 matag usa.

Nagaingon ko og maayong swerte sa ahensya sa PR ug sa team nga nagdumala sa giingong "Disini" nga account. Ang ahensya nagtan-aw gayud nga magkuha pa og dugang tawo aron pagdumala sa bag-ong account. Ang padayon nga pressure gikan sa mga lobby group ug ang negatibong press tingali maoy nakaingon niini.

Kini nga hisgutanan nagpadayon na sulod sa daghang mga tuig ug nagtan-aw ka balik sa akong mga daang post bahin sa isyu:

12/19/2005: CICT mangayo sa ICANN nga i-revoke ang kontrol sa dotPH

10/25/2006: Ngano nga ang dotPH mahal gihapon?

12/18/2006: Mamatay ba ang isyu sa .PH sa natural nga paagi?

03/30/2007: Si Joel Disini mitubag sa talakayan sa pagpresyo sa dot.PH

Sa labing menos kana nga $35 karon kay Php1,435 na kumpara sa mga katuigan nga milabay nga Php1,925. Sa teknikal nga pagsulti, ang mga presyo sa PH mikunhod og 25%. Tungod kini sa mas kusog nga peso batok sa dolyar ug dili kay ang dotPH mismo ang nagpaubos sa presyo sa domain. Kung hunahunaon, kung ang exchange rate sa $1 moabot sa Php10, ang mga PH domain magbayad pareho sa presyo sa .com karon.

Ang akong sugyot, gamita ang pondo sa PR imbis aron maghatag og mga diskwento, dugay nga mga promo ug ubang pag-ubos sa presyo. Daghan kaayo ko nga mahunahuna—annual nga usa ka adlaw nga one-dollar sale, 50% nga diskwento sa 10‑ka tuig nga mga rehistrasyon, palit og .com.ph makakuha og .ph libre o magrehistro sulod sa 5 ka tuig ug makadawat og libre nga hosting sa kinabuhi. Nakig-istorya ko sa usa ka mubo nga pakigpulong sa tawo nga nagdumala sa ilang laing negosyo (email/web hosting) ug nadungog nako nga naningkamot sila og mga promo, bisan pa nga mga duha ka tuig na ang milabay.

Bisan pa man, makapaikag gyud kung giunsa sa PR team pag-spin niini.

Frequently Asked Questions

Why did dotPH hire a Public Relations agency?
The continued pressure from lobby groups and negative press prompted dotPH to hire a PR agency.
How much does a .PH domain currently cost?
A .PH domain costs $35, which is now Php1,435 due to the stronger peso.
Has dotPH actually lowered its domain prices?
No, the 25% price reduction is due to the stronger peso against the dollar, not dotPH lowering prices.
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Abe is the founder and Editor-in-Chief of YugaTech with over 20 years of experience in the technology industry. He is one of the pioneers of blogging in the country and is considered by many as the Father of Tech Blogging in the Philippines.

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PH Domains · 14 years ago

Hi,

Our company is selling PH Domain Registrations at $25 or PHP1075 per domain. We are setting up new website but for now you may contact PH****@ENTHROPIA.COM for information on how to get your PH domains from us.

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ёклмн · 17 years ago

Пожалуй, это один из интереснейших блогов, которые я когда-либо видел :). Отличные статьи, Актуальные комментарии. Так держать! :)

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CallCenterVet · 18 years ago

Of course the statement was an exaggeration Yuga.

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Abe Olandres Editor-in-chief · 18 years ago

@ CallCenterVet, we’ve been reselling PH domains for a couple of years now and we’ve had some fair success with it. From our experience, we could have sold double the number if we had it lower.

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CallCenterVet · 18 years ago

@Andre

what’s the point? Nobody’s buying…

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Andre · 18 years ago

If someone sold .COM.PH domains at $16/year ($1 profit) each and everyone bought from that reseller, then dotPH would lose out on all the extra money it would normally make, about $19 per domain per year. So then for dotPH to compete with that reseller it would either have to offer more services or drop its retail price. Then on the other hand, the cheaper reseller has to sell 19 more domains to match dotPH’s profit, not counting the real profit they make off each domain.

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Christian · 18 years ago

Why is dotPH focused on businesses and their use for their domains? It’s like they (dotPH) feels a little sore if you make money with your .PH domain. While there might be SEO advantages in getting a PH domain, the average Juan could care less. Businesses have all the $$$$ to pay for the domains but how about the masses who just want their name.ph? I would respect dotPH if they were simply honest rather than relying on all the technical mumbo-jumbo they use to get internet n00b businesses to pay for their outrageous prices. They have a monopoly and it’s a simple as that. I believe they have the right to charge whatever they want but be transparent about it.

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Emil Avancena · 18 years ago

Yuga, using a .PH domain in addition to a .COM domain (or any other gTLD or ccTLD that helps drive traffic to your site) should take care of that.

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Abe Olandres Editor-in-chief · 18 years ago

@Emil, it could also go the other way around. Individuals or companies that have sites on PH domains can suffer lower SERP rankings on other countries as opposed to when they have a COM domain.

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CallCenterVet · 18 years ago

@Emil

I actually find localized searches annoying! I hate it when it shows “pages from the Philippines” and totally ignore it. 99% of the time I insist on using “google.com” and NOT “google.com.ph”. The tagalog version and translation of searches in Google is annoying and most of the time does not correspond to the actual meaning of the word.

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Emil Avancena · 18 years ago

Hi Yuga,

I don’t think we’ll see these advantages disappearing soon. The trend is moving towards localized search, which makes for more relevant search results. Look at yahoo providing local ads for Philippine surfers, and google.com.ph which has the “pages from the Philippines” button that Joel mentioned.

So unless an RP-based site is hosted locally (not likely because of higher bandwidth costs and the reasons Joel mentioned), the .PH domain is really the only way to be identified as such.

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Abe Olandres Editor-in-chief · 18 years ago

Emil & Joel,

I’ve actually discussed those SERPs *advantages* in my previous posts about the PH domains.

However, those advantages have been introduced by Google and Yahoo only recently. They may actually revise these advantages too in the future. I don’t think we’d want to rely on those factors when they are not inherent benefits.

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CallCenterVet · 18 years ago

When using Google to search “beach resort in the Philippines”, Only one out of 10 results come up with a dotph TLD. Even for a Google search of “beaches philippines” has the same result.

So I don’t know how they can justify having a dotph will get better results in the search engines. I’d have to agree that an average Juan will not know or would not do an advanced search in Google. First instinct is always to do a normal search.

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Christian · 18 years ago

Regarding: “look only for websites from the Philippines option” in Google. The average juan doesn’t use Google advance search. Most just type their search in Google.com. BTW, 1 .PH came up searching for beach resort in Google advance searching for pages in the Philippines.

ex: beach resorts

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Emil Avancena · 18 years ago

posting on behalf of Joel Disini re:

Why even bother with a dotph site. There are an infinity of domain possibilities out there. Ask me what kind of domain you need and I’ll give it to you for a fee.

Hello Yuga,

Joel Disini here. Like it or hate it, a PH domain plays a unique function that a COM does not – it establishes a business as being based in the Philippines, or catering to the Philippine market.

When one searches in Google for a beach resort in the Philippines and chooses the “look only for websites from the Philippines” option, Google restricts the search to (1) websites physically hosted in the Philippines and (2) websites ending in a PH domain. Because the local Telcos are notorious for not interconnecting with each other, many – in fact, a huge majority of – Philippine webhosting companies actually choose to host abroad. I believe your own Ploghost is one of these Webhosting companies.

In cases like these, the only way Google will know that a local site caters to the Philippine market is by its PH domain. So if a business has clients in the Philippines, it may make sense to get a PH domain (even if it already operates with a COM domain). The additional $35/year expense is generally small when compared to the additional traffic and business that comes with greater search engine visibility.

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CallCenterVet · 18 years ago

I hear the dot me market will soon be open and there should be a lot of people looking forward to buying in these because of the market appeal.

Check out my post about the dotme domains.

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BrianB · 18 years ago

Why even bother with a dotph site. There are an infinity of domain possibilities out there. Ask me what kind of domain you need and I’ll give it to you for a fee.

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Andre · 18 years ago

We probably can’t expect dotPH to drop price, they are the main, dropping prices is bad for them. It would have to take a reseller and some investment to sell domains real cheap around $15-$20 . So far it looks like noone has wanted to take that risk, would people buy a .COM.PH if it cost only PHP800 per year ? vs $1435?

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Abe Olandres Editor-in-chief · 18 years ago

Thanks Emil. My source even mentioned the name of the owner of this PR company who used to be a media executive. And btw, the last promo that we had from dotPH was way back Feb 2007. Maybe we can have more of them this year.

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Emil Avancena · 18 years ago

Hi Abe,

Interesting rumor, but that’s all it is — no truth to it whatsoever.

We do hold promotions along the lines of what you described in your post, and as one of our Registrars you’ll be sure to know when we get something going for this year.

cheers,
emil avancena
dotph

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Miguel · 18 years ago

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Christian · 18 years ago

I bet the PR uses the “Pinoy Pride” angle. “Buy a .PH to show your Pinoy Pride” – yuck….

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Arnel · 18 years ago

Sana maging $6 na lang din per domain….. mas dadami ang kanilang customers….

:D

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ia · 18 years ago

Yeah, not having promos in over two years and resorting to PR instead of actually talking to their customers says a lot about the company.

Are other countries (aside from the US) this unfortunate?

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Eugene · 18 years ago

Just how expensive is it to run a registry? I don’t think that the costs are nowhere near as high as that of a web hosting business (cheap local ones being around $20/yr for one account) that charging $35/yr for just a single domain name is outright greedy.

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