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Would You Give Nokia a Second Chance?

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Nokia was one the best companies out there back then. Things changed when companies started to get comfortable with their positions, such as Motorola with the RAZR. Apple introduced the iPhone last 2007 and Google also started with Android. Phones evolved to smartphones and Samsung took some titles away from Nokia later on.

Right now, I’ve been a little bit tired of waiting for Android updates. Hardware evolves very fast too, which is why I have my eyes on the Nexus devices but some part of me wants to get away from Android for a while and that part screams Lumia. I want you guys to convince me or influence my decision, so hear me out.

Ever since, Nokia was in a struggle. It had been so difficult to get back what was lost from them. Nokia had several options: Develop Symbian further, abandon Symbian and go with Android, or abandon Symbian and go with Windows Phone. A lot of people were already doubting the Symbian platform; Nokia chose to leave it and move on. Amidst the competition, it was very hard to stand out with Android. After all, Android was very similar to Symbian. For Nokia to stand out, they chose the road not taken, Windows Phone.

Windows Phone was a differentiating factor; live tiles look nothing like shortcut icons and wallpapered home screens. Honestly though, Windows Phone falls back in functionality back then – they held back the hardware capabilities of Nokia.

Unknown to us, Nokia has a lot of secrets hiding in their R&D department. Later on, they unveiled their last Symbian phone, the Nokia PureView 808. Five years in the making, they developed a 41 megapixel camera for a phone with breathtaking capabilities. The problem is it’s still on Symbian; it can’t compete with Android and iOS’ app ecosystems.

A little ways down the road, Nokia announced that they’ll be porting PureView technologies into the Windows Phone platform, Lumia. Sadly, a lot of buzz went out when everyone found out that Nokia faked their PureView Lumia ads. Everyone doubted Nokia once again, but upon the announcement of their phone, the Nokia Lumia 920, we were a little bit wowed. It seemed like Nokia had some more up its sleeve – PureMotion+ HD, wireless charging, PureView once again and more.

This time however, Nokia called PureView not their 41 megapixel shooter but rather the best of their imaging department; it sounded more like marketing than actual facts. The Lumia 920’s 8.7 megapixel camera didn’t fail however; it was great in practice.

Windows Phone 8 brought a lot improvements as well, but I’m still somewhat unconvinced. Some part of me says Nokia’s going desperate to be on top again, but the other part of me begs to give Nokia a second chance. Considering the app ecosystems, Nokia’s added functionalities and the uniqueness of Windows Phone, would you give Nokia a second chance?

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pabs · 14 years ago

Sure, I’m waiting for the Lumia 920, Oh dear, when is it coming out? I’m through with Android, been to LG, Sony and lately Samsung, I feel like as if they’re one and the same, yes there are so many applications in the google play store but you can’t use them all., I have already sold my galaxy s2 and will be back to Nokia soon….


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meh · 14 years ago

Right now they make fat bulky phones, but the problem is windows phone itself has a huge lack of apps and options. Its like having a feature phone and not a smart phone


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flipped · 14 years ago

My mind was all set for Lumia 920 due to its imaging capabilities but after reading reviews from tech blogs im having second thoughts. As what i have read, it only performs best on a low light scene. Checked sample photos taken with a regular light, ip5 outshines it. Im still doing research about this though as some tech blog maybe biased. Will decide once i can have my hands on it. BTW, i love how this article is written.


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pong · 14 years ago

Yes.. IF! the 820 is affordable. I like the 920 but i prefer exchangable cover’s than the camera.

plus i don’t like my android anymore it’s an eyesore


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Alexus · 14 years ago

I would definitely give Nokia a second chance. I’m currently a Nokia phone owner, although it’s an S40 C1-01, a very reliable little device. I love Nokia for their dedication to make phones for consumers. They always make quality, user and environment friendly and long-lasting devices. Fir me I believe Nokia will never forsake their consumers, and their outstanding effort to go unique and different make them stand out. Go Nokia! I want an Asha 311 and a Lumia 920!


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Lezure2010 · 14 years ago

Nokia’s mistake was to solely rely on Windows Phone for their Smartphones, whilst other manufacturers made phones with Android and Windows Phone OSes. The non-exclusivity of Windows Phone to solely Nokia has been their biggest downfall. Microsoft is allowing other manufacturers to use WP while Nokia ha set it’s goal to solely using WP for their phones.

Nokia should man up and start making Android phones. Android plus Nokia’s Hardware designs would equal greatness.:)


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sam · 14 years ago

Was never a fan of Nokia and have no plans to be.


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miongb · 14 years ago

my unsolicited advice? stay with android!


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Therese · 14 years ago

A huge yes!!! I think the mobile industry is still very young. While the uptake of smartphones has been very fast, smartphone penetration in various countries (even the US) is still not that high. A lot of people are still feature phone users, meaning there’s still a lot of room for other operating systems, like RIM’s BB10 and Nokia’s Windows 8. I am glad they did not go with Android – it is so hard to innovate and differentiate. I feel that at the end of the day, the more ecosystems there are, the better for consumers and developers.


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Jazon · 14 years ago

I’ve been waiting for THEM to make me give THEM a second chance! I’ve been waiting for a worthy successor for the E63 for years and it never arrived.

It’s their fault for being in the predicament they are in now. They failed to respond quickly to market demands, failed to adjust properly when they finally got out of their shock by adopting an experimental platform and failed to remember what made Nokia big in the first place: innovative, cool looking phones that catch attention. Where are all those Nokia phones that come in all shapes and sizes? Nowadays they don’t differentiate themselves, they just drift with the bandwagon.

And I’m still waiting for a QWERTY phone from Nokia.


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Lexty · 14 years ago

Yes! and it also depends on your preference. How do you use your phone? Do you really need all the latest Apps/Games on your phone? kasi at the end of the day. its all about calls and text.


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marvin · 14 years ago

hell yes! i’ll even buy the surface! i had enough of apple and i want something new. i dont play games on my phone or my tablet (i have the console for that) so i dont need all those apps in the appstore. for me the lumia is a better phone than the iphone and a hell lot better than android. hope its available here soon!


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Kendra · 14 years ago

i agree. as for my end, i need such apps for photog, productivity, references, and the like coz games is not top of my list so i’m not switching to winmo again. i hope winmo8 can improve it soon.


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Kendra · 14 years ago

we have the same sentiment. i tried lumia and yes, i got amazed on its true multitasking feature. but what sets me back is that it has lack of apps than ios and android that was the reason i switched from my good ol’ winmo 6.5 back then. imoo, i’ll go for winmo8 if the app stabilizes sometime soon.


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Kendra · 14 years ago

edited: we have the same sentiment. i tried lumia and yes, i got amazed on its true multitasking feature. but what sets me back is that it has lack of apps than ios and android , and that was the reason i switched from my good ol’ winmo 6.5 to ios and android back then. imoo, i’ll go for winmo8 if the app stabilizes sometime soon.


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amelia dionisio · 14 years ago

more power


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Kulam · 14 years ago

I did, but now i regret it. Bought a Lumia 900 for my Dad (non tech-savvy) to replace his Nokia E63 despite the price (21k black market), primarily for the bigger screen (failing eyes) and ease of use…and so i thought. had a hard time transferring his data (contacts, calendar, etc…) over to the Lumia 900,even thought its a different OS, Nokia should have anticipated transfer from their old devices to their new ones.limited options (no sms templates, no blacklists, limited choice of apps). Will now get Samsung Galaxy Note 2 for him to replace his phone. If you just want a phone primarily for Call and Sms, hands down, you will enjoy the Lumia 900 (if you can set it up easily that is). if you’re looking for more, you might want to consider other systems rather than WP7/WP8. Promising? Yes. give them time,let’s see.


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Epstein · 14 years ago

You probably did not search thoroughly. Have you heard of “Welcome to Windows Phone” Application? Nokia Suite 3.6 already have an option for transferring contacts. Have yo ever tried contacting support? They do have chat now you know…


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Levite · 14 years ago

Nokia… definitely. I have always been a Nokia fan due to their hardware. In fact I still have Nokia 3210 working… its just freakin durable. They just dipped due to their lack of innovation and got stucked with Symbian but now with WP8, I am screaming for Lumia 920.

Looking closer to this handset, their specs is for the win compared with Iphone5 and even with Android handsets. So when will Nokia release Lumia 920 here in Philippines?


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guyrony · 14 years ago

Definitely a second chance with Nokia should their phones be priced accordingly and not aggressively because for now they are not the top player in the smartphone category and their Lumia phones are still very much expensive in the market.


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jhayyap · 14 years ago

definitely YES just waiting for the L920 to arrive in PH :)


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Jayvee · 14 years ago

No. Their phones never departed from the usual Nokia device: fat, bulky and recycled. Plus, they’ve got their name tainted on the advertisement controversy. Samsung and LG now own my loyalty. I’m sure it’s now gonna be a tough choice between the Samsung Galaxy SIII and the Lg Nexus 4 for those eyeing for the best smartphone at the moment.


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kannuchi · 14 years ago

Among the phone manufacturers, Samsung is well-known for being the copy cat of other phones such as iPhone. Isn’t that more controversial despite its success? They maybe making lots of sexy-phones, but where’s the originality there? That’s why we think Nokia is still more reliable, even if they’re fat, but has bunch of ORIGINAL and INNOVATIVE features.


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2nd Grade · 14 years ago

Ahhh.. samsung.. the copycats… yes…

http://www.bestmastersprograms.org/apple/


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topgun · 14 years ago

Nokia really deserve’s second chance, As time past by I gradually convinced that WP is really good choice for Nokia WP8 good and there’s still lot of room for improvement’s, Apps are currently pouring into WP which is good, Nokia Design,hardware and custome support, well nothing to say more, they are one of the best in the Market.

Patiently waiting for L920


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Ren · 14 years ago

this article is nicely written. No recycled or over-used “figure of speech”, reading this is like naturally spoken. i’d suggest that you give Nokia a second chance.


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tonto · 14 years ago

Definitely! Actually, I never let go of Nokia. Symbian is old but still very reliable. Belle’s usable and it just works for me. My e6 covers the basics and I use it more often than my android (partly because I like physical keypads). I had experienced WP7 (Lumia 710) and it was simple and sleek, reminiscent of what made Nokia popular long before anyway, ‘bobo-friendly’ as we say. Having only one smartphone OS will also probably help Nokia with familiarity. If Nokia can provide the best hardware for WP, then they could easily grab that market.

There were kinks here and there with WP7 (non re-sizable blue text in the contacts for example, one of the reasons my dad won’t use it) but they should be fixed quite easily (so fix them please!). Another problem is future-proofing. I hope that current WP8 phones are able to transition to future WP releases, at least maybe 1-2 generation above.

I think one of the biggest consideration in transition is the amount of apps you’ve purchased in a particular platform. I’ve spent some on android, and I know people who’ve spent a lot on iOS apps, and moving completely to a different platform feels like wasting a lot of money. Otherwise, if you’re gonna have them all (OSs) anyway, then why not grab this one. In my opinion, the Lumia 920 looks to be the best of the initial WP8 releases.


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Roanld · 14 years ago

I love my N9 in white so now i’m getting the Lumia 920 in red.


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Marky · 14 years ago

Absolutely! I’m currently an Android user (iOS before that) and waiting for Lumia 920 as my next phone. I’ve tried WP7 and saw a big potential. And this new Nokias are running version 8 so I expect even big improvements there from the WP7 I’ve tried.
I think Nokia’s decision not to use Android is a good move because consumers might not actually pay them attention since there are tons of manufacturers there with Android devices.


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Kannuchi · 14 years ago

Of course. Nokia chose the path of Windows phone, an OS affiliated to the top PC OS maker, that is Microsoft. This company has the machinery of software developers that can dedicate themselves to the creation of windows phone apps. Consumers like us will benefit since we will have an assurance of long-term support from the big company, Microsoft.

For me, I trust Nokia brand when it comes to hardware and innovation. I discontinued buying Androids because I anticipate their too much release of non-innovative phones. IPhone is okay since they were able to dedicate successfully to their few lines of models, though icons are gradually becoming boring..


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imhowee · 14 years ago

Definitely. Nokia is still the best when it comes to hardware and paired with a beautiful OS (wp8) it’s going to big. They will get on top again. Slowly but surely.


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Nokianatic · 14 years ago

definitely ill buy he lumia 920. if they can only adapt android platform too in some of their phones so the costumers get more options hence a bigger chance to bounce back.

ako ay lumaki sa Nokia, tulad ng karamihan sa atin.

good luck nokia, sana lumago pa kayo!


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modyakhoz · 14 years ago

too bad nokia entered the smartphone wars too late.. but i admire them because they want to be different from other smartphone makers.. but still i’m giving them a chance.. lumia is not bad after all..


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sam · 14 years ago

They’re not late. They’re just too stubborn to adapt.


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hatch · 14 years ago

For those saying that the os is not yet ready and will wait for it to be at par with Ios and Aos then u must be kidding. I guess u even didnt try using WP7. Anyway for me call me a fantard but ive grown up using nokia and their choice of having Wp7 and wp8 on their hardware is a good choice. Fully functional and very unique. It adapts to the one who uses the phone, the personalization, the sns integration is just soooo damn effing awesome. So yeah im gonna give nokia 2nd chance…


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Vince · 14 years ago

For me, I’ll give them chance. Nokia served me well with their Symbian up until now because I still have my beloved 5630 as my secondary phone. I’d like to have one of their W8 phone, Lumia 820 because it supports memory card now.


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taro · 14 years ago

I firmly believe that Windows 8 (+WP8) will make it big this and the coming years.


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Jcnjcjcnjc · 14 years ago

I will, actually can’t wait for Lumia 920. Don’t really about how apps they have, honestly how many apps you actually use. I’m using an iPad, at first you’re excited to download as many apps you can, but after a while you just use a few useful apps daily and m sure these major apps are available in all platforms. Planning to my wife’s iPhone 4 and buy a lumia 920. Yes iPhone is easy to use, but that’s it. And youre lock in their Eco system, you even cannot Bluetooth your friend if you suddenly took a nice photo. Android is far better than iOS, but after using windows 8 for a few months, I might say wp8 will be great as an alternative to android.


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Yuja · 14 years ago

I like the hardware. One thing i dont like is the symbian OS. those ASHAs that came out are really cool but the OS is still symbian. Also, if W8 mobile comes out, guess the price :)


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steelicon · 14 years ago

Sorry to burst your bubble, but S40 is not S60 – S60 being Symbian. S40 is the older brother of S30 and both are dumb phone OS. ASHA is a dumb phone pretending to be a smart phone, thus the misnomer / misleading moniker of smart phone “lite”

Ian Delaney of Nokia Conversations rebutted my statement by saying that “because it has got apps, it is a smart phone.” What a joke and what a tool. 0.o

If you really, really want a real smart phone OS with true multitasking, get the Nokia 808 PureView, Nokia 701 or Nokia 700. Don’t knock it until you try it, you’d be amazed and would probably eat your words. ;-)


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Ric · 14 years ago

I’d give Nokia a 2nd chance. Even a 3rd, or even a 4th. Hardware-wise, I believe Nokia still makes great phones. The N9 was a greatly designed phone; I was keen on getting one but before I could, I read that Nokia is abandoning Meego.

For the Lumias, I still have mixed feelings. I personally believe that the success, or failure, of Windows 8 will make or break WP8. If Win8 soars, then there’s no reason not to get a WP8 smartphone. Of course, I have the assumption that Win8 and WP8 will have seamless integration. However, if Win8 fails then I believe WP8 will too.

On a side note, I’d wait and see what Mozilla (Firefox OS) or Jolla (Meego) comes up with next year. But these will most likely be phones aimed at developers.

If I had extra cash to burn, which I don’t, I’d definitely get a Lumia 920 just so I can try WP8. :)


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vslayer31 · 14 years ago

idont think that windows 8 will be fail coz almost all pc’s are running windows and upgradable to windows 8


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almed22 · 14 years ago

Nokia should have gone both with Android and Windows phone, that’s what the other companies are doing. Its sad because I’ve had good experiences with Nokia phones. I would really like to go back to the brand but not today, maybe in the next 5 years. I hope by then the Windows Phone will be mature enough to compete with other OSs. I really wish they would release Android Phones in the future.


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JKisaragi · 14 years ago

“Considering the app ecosystems, Nokia’s added functionalities and the uniqueness of Windows Phone, would you give Nokia a second chance?”

The Lumias on WP7 were good with their build quality and added functionality by Nokia. It was just that the OS itself was not ready and was very limiting. Now that the OS limitations have pretty much been worked on, I can say “Yes” to Nokia.

I’ve seen PureView shots of the Lumia 920 online as well, and they were pretty impressive. Night shots turned out as if they were taken with helicopters overhead carrying spotlights to add to the lighting though. So I guess the tech is really that powerful. XD

Regardless if they stumbled on their marketing, or if the term PureView is just a ploy, those shots (like the ones I found online at PhoneArena) speak for the Lumia 920, and they’re saying a lot. :)


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Gerard · 14 years ago

Love the hardware. Now if only they would manufacture android phones…


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fotolocco · 14 years ago

I bought a W8 ultrabook yesterday from the PC fair here in MY. I automatically fell in love. Now I want to ditch my Android. My next phone will be a Lumia.

Btw, i am still using nokia for my PH number.


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ThisIsLumia · 14 years ago

YES. I will buy the new Lumia 920 because I know it will be the best phone when it comes out. Nokia will be on top again. :)


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eyt · 14 years ago

nok yeah lum yeah!
Oh yeah. The best OS platform in the market. Clean user interface, Social Platform developed for different personalities, amazing apps even though it only have 120k apps in the marketplace (big things come in small packages) ;)


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wacko · 14 years ago

definitely, waiting for lumia 920


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cheftonio · 14 years ago

Apps. Produce awesome apps iOS and Android can’t — that’s the time I’ll give Nokia a second chance.


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fotolocco · 14 years ago

i am using W8 right now and I think the Nokia Store has lots of cool apps. There are apps way cooler than the ones you are seeing in Google Play. If the apps will be available optimized for the Lumia then there will be no questions asked…


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Ron · 14 years ago

Definitely! They have the most innovative smartphone right now! Lumia 920


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rocketlog · 14 years ago

I’m actually trying to decide if I’ll go for WP8. I’ve gotten a little tired of the variety that Android has. Nanawa na rin ako sa mga custom ROMs. I guess I’ll still wait a couple of months para makita ko kung maganda nga. So far, I’m still leaning towards getting a 920. Pero depende parin sa price point.


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don · 14 years ago

ill give Nokia a second chance. even 3rd. Android is like iOS. nothing new to it. its just a plain copy.

on the other hand, Nokia is different. thats why i want to try them. every aspect is fresh. new. :)


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NemOry · 14 years ago

They will rule back the again for sure. It’s near.


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Ghost Riley · 14 years ago

Yep I would. Sometimes, iOS’ UI gets boring. It’s too basic. I actually like Android’s widgets but then again, they iterate their versions too quickly.

I think using a Windows Phone would be a refresher. I’d choose Nokia because of their Lumia designs.

Now if only YugaTech would give me one… (crossed fingers)


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ceegii63 · 14 years ago

AYE!

just waiting to see who sells the 920 cheapest
ROGERS CA = $599 CAD Unlocked
Bestbuy US = $599 USD Locked
AT&T (rumored) = $450 USD Locked


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Juan Paulo Ducut · 14 years ago

give them a chance? they just made the game more awesome, they still rock! their windows phone is awesome too, talking here as an android user.

can I have my free nokia lumia now?


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Kevin · 14 years ago

Right now, my definitive answer is NO. But MAYBE in the future like when they finally embrace Android which I definitely think they would considering that Microsoft would eventually produce a pure Windows phone. With more vendors making a Windows phone vis a vis less than 5% percent of the market share, Nokia should consider the Android platform and dump Elop, its present CEO.


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Marcelino · 14 years ago

Definitely.

It can happen to any company. Who knows? Apple or Samsung might face the same thing in the future.

Nevertheless, Nokia’s products are always dependable.
They just have to ‘clean’ that image of being left out.


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steelicon · 14 years ago

Remember Nokia N97? Deception. Nokia N8-00. Deception. Nokia Symbian Anna, Belle, Carla, Donna. Deception. Support for Symbian up to 2016. Deception. The latest V2 “PureView” a.k.a., PureView Faux. Deception. Not finishing the Nokia 808 PureView RM-807 “Hyperion” to polished finished product. Deception. Killing of Symbian UIQ in favor of S60, because of politics, not because it is the better Symbian. Deception.

The last straw was Nokia abandoning MeeGo and Symbian to depreciate their stocks further by going Microsoft exclusive.

Hell no. Nokia burn in Hell.


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