What’s the cost of a true guaranteed speed?

parang wla tlaga true guaranteed speed

Talking about rebates, Globe will apply the rebate on the next billing, for Bayantel you will have to APPLY for it or maybe even contest it. This was in year 2003. Not sure now.

that depends on the infrastructure, sana pinaganda ang serbisyo at affordable sa mga Madla kagaya nang mga mas-low pa sa average.

Just wondering, I get a stable speed at 1mbps every time I check my speed at speedtest.net. Is this the same consistency that you guys are talking about or not?

@Jhay: if you have a good case (mine for example happened almost two years ago, I have logs of calls / support tickets), they will apply the rebate on the next billing on a prorated basis. They are still doing that, though I haven’t had any problem for the last year.

What’s wrong with this blogger trying to push through bucket internet plans here in the Philippines?

MR. YOU GOT TECH, our country is lucky to have internet service providers who offer unlimited internet plans. YOU HAVE NO IDEA kung anu-ano ang pasakit na dala ng bucket data plan.

Now let me GIVE YOU SOME.

Take for example, here in the United States, AT&T offers $80 (about P3200) plan for 5gb of data transfer, THAT IS INCLUDING UPLOAD TRANSFERS. The bandwidth speed differs and ranges from 1-3mb/s which is a good side of this.

Let’s say, you’re an avid YouTube watcher, or one who uses Netflix and the likes. These will all eat up your monthly allowance, sa download palang. Gaming consoles (PS3, X360) takes up a lot of upload bandwidth. An anti-virus update’s file size can take up to 1mb, now do the math if you set it up to update every hour. AND JUST LIKE YOU, web hosts there in our country will suffer.

There are too many downsides, I tell you. Would you pay for $80 just for downloading 4 DVD rips from utorrent? How about $80 just for 2 whole days of Skyping? Or $80 exclusively for serving your blog’s visitors for 2 weeks?

THE ADVERTISEMENTS AND REBATES are what you gotta ask to get fixed. P1000 for 512Kbps doesn’t sound bad at all.

I’m asking you to please, please, please, stop writing about bucket pricing’s advantages. Or at least, post but include the disadvantages. You have a big voice in the tech industry. Heck, even Globe and Smart are trying to implement the method after your posts. Please stop this now or you’ll become the root of our nation’s possible additional burden.

Er, leased vs residential lines. I thought leased was another term for residential, heh.

@fleeb, if you pay for it, it becomes a right… heheheh

To smart and globe, it is the volume of user and capability of signal that decides the continuous speed. No one among these network can guarantee you a steady and continuous speed of internet connection at all time. http://iloveyou-mydear.blogspot.com/

@no to bucket pricing maybe out of topic but he is right. stop promoting bucket pricing yugatech. parang unti unting binibrain wash ung mga readers. masaya na kami sa unlimited =)

Internet connection is and will always be, a service-related business–key word is business.

@Manix, that probably works for you since you use it alone or with 2 or 3 other users. Do you think you still get that speed if you operate a call center with 100-200 seats? I dont think so too. Thats why there’s leased line Internet. Guaranteed speed that comes with a price. Eastern Communications offer their 2Mbps line for $800 or around P35K as of yesterday.

I am on a 1mbps residential plan with PLDT but my speed since last month is 2.5mbps. I am still paying the same, I don’t know what happened :D Our neighbor reaches 3mbps.

:D

“Internet connection speeds are expressed in terms of data transfer rates in both directions (uploading and downloading), as bits or bytes per second. Abbreviations are unfortunately not standardized, making it easy for customers or potential clients to confuse a bit and a byte when trying to determine bang for the buck. For example, a speed of “750 kbps” might be misinterpreted by a customer as meaning 750 kilobytes per second – or 8x faster than what the provider means.”

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-a-bit-and-a-byte.htm

@surfer

Apparently, you’re the one who’s confused. You’re basically stating that the difference between a leased line and a residential line is because of misleading terms, and that leased lines are generally faster because they are measured in MBps instead of Mbps?

You’re missing the point of the article. The difference why leased lines are faster than their residential counterparts – ke bits per second or bytes per second ang measurement na ginamit – e dahil dedicated line sya. Walang kaagaw, compared to residential lines where bandwidth is shared amongst several subscribers.

Hirap talaga nyan kasi laging UP to ang labanan. Yung witribe nga pwede na rin pero mahal pa sa bandwidth.

As what it stands today, is Internet connection a right or a privilege?

As ricardo isip said, only if you pay for it. Besides, who else will if you insist on that being a so-called right?

@surfer
Ikaw ang confused. Hahaha.

For Philippines to prosper we need to stop looking at US as an example because they are anything but a good example. In fact they are perfect example of what NOT to do – both when it comes to internet access and celluar access.

We need to look towards Europe – look towards Sweden.

http://www.bredbandsbolaget.se/bredband/bredband100/index.html

Take Bredbands Bolaget (The Broadband Company) – they offer 100Mbit internet with 60Mbit minimum (anything above depends how much you are using of TV, VOIP etc. that runs over the network also) – at a price even Filipinos could afford – 1675 peso pr. month.

Some will say – that is Europe we cant do that in Asia, well that isn’t true, you can do that in South Korea, Japan, China or Singapore easily.

M1 in Singapore has 100Mbit for 2625 peso pr. month via Cable – or 2000 peso pr. month via fiber.

Fact is that the infrastructure at PLDT (and in parts Globe) is ready for ADSL2+ which would bring the average DSL connection in Philippines to European standards – where 1500 peso is 20Mbit completely unmetered (no up or download limits).

Here is the but – they don’t wan’t to invest in backbone connections and as such they keep the connections unnaturally low to avoid overselling their capacity too much.

The Philippines are PERFECTLY situated to be the Asian hub for communications, but unfortunately for the Philippine people there is nobody willing to listen to this.

If the islands here were properly interconnected with much more capacity than at current, and then new deepsea cables were made to all our neighbours, we would be the center of S.E.A. communications and create a huge new sector (proper hosting services for all of Asia, central hubs for all the worldwide backbone suppliers etc.) with loads of new jobs here in Phillippines.

It’s all PLDTs fault for not do in bi-latteral peering with anyone else in Philippines.

All other ISPs you can reach without your packets leaving the country – with PLDT they go to Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan or Japan before reaching PLDT or vice versa.

An example – PacNet (biggest backbone provider in south east asia) is in the business of selling international bandwidth. They have huge pipes going in/out of Philippines. Now they sell bandwidth to almost all ISPs in Philippines including PLDT, but when they asked PLDT for bi-latteral peering PLDT told PacNet that, that was only possible if PacNet bought bandwidth from PLDT……

So PacNet sells bandwidth to PLDT and then tries to sell the same bandwidth back to PacNet at many many many times the price.

PLDT is the failure of IT in Philippines, if the government wasn’t in their pocket they would do 2 thing:

1) Telcos are limited to binding a customer (phone or internet/broadband) for a maximum of six months. (any country that has enforced this has seen prices plummit due to increased competition)

2) All ISPs must connect bi-latteral to a free neutral IX run by the goverment – at minimum X Kbit pr. customer.

There you go – these two simple things in place and Philippines is in top5 of internet in SEA within 5 years.

Tama si Miklos. 50% kasalanan ito ng PLDT.

50% kasalanan ng NTC/Government. Ayaw nilang i-dictate ang peering.

Madali lang naman eh… Use PLDT for local loops and the like. Never use them for Internet.

But that is a dream. PLDT has about 50+GBPs upstream. The next rival probably has 30 or so gbps. Companies (80% source of ISPs revenues) will still choose PLDT due to upstream capability and more importantly their local reach to far flung provinces.

The only company that has the potential to bring them down is Globe. Unfortunately for us, Globe has become an a$$hole more than PLDT. Just imagine, they got banned in our company!

Poor pinoy… tiis na lang po tayo. Else, magtayo tayo ng sarili nating Telco.