Bucket Pricing for Broadband gets a new twist

I second the motion.. siguro sa mga wired customer pwede.. pero yung bucket pricing still dapat me minimum guarantee na speed.. or else..

Andyan na naman tayo sa Mbps. If they don’t deliver the said speed, pwede bang hindi ako magbayad? I highly doubt pwede yun, pero sila ang hindi tumutupad. Worst case scenario, mabagal na nga, capped pa usage mo. FAIL

If the telcos do approve of this system, color me surprised. The current pricing scheme is a boatload of money.

Questions is, will the speed really be consistent?
How about downtime?
They have to PROMISE consumers first there is close to zero downtime and guaranteed speed

I think the cap is too low while the price per gig too high. Maybe if they just count the downloads and not the seeding uploads then maybe we can think about it.

I do around at my peak around 180 to 250 gigs a month combined DL (150) and UL (100) If you just count my DL then my monthly bill will be:

2999 MSF plus bandwidth overage of 9k for a grand total of 11,999!!!

Can the telco’s give figures for caps in other countries?

This offer sounds fair. If this will be implemented I can go with Option #2 Capped Plan: Php999 @ 4Mbps (15GB/month), hopefully without LOCK-IN period so I can switch if ever I’m no longer satisfied with the service.

Bandwidth too low for me.. I don’t download but I stream videos and music. I pay 1995 for my 3mbps residential.. Would be nice to have 8mbps capped at 300gbs

Sadly without guaranteed speeds they might as well tell you that you have 1,000 Mbit speeds but only get 10kB/sec when you use it.

What’s the use? They’re overselling their bandwidth either way.

Without guaranteed speeds then what kind of minimum speed are we looking at? 50kB/sec? 10kB? 5? 0? If they keep overselling their bandwidth eventually what they sell as 1MBit lines will just give everybody 5kB/sec downloads. Dial-up speeds.

What’s stopping them? Nothing, apparently. With all their crappy jargon they might as well write their own paycheck and give us little drops of internet every so often.

I think they better improve their service first NATIONWIDE BEFORE THEY OFFER these kinds of plans.

This is no use if the customer thinks that somewhere in the future that their internet connection will degrade or they will not get what they paid for.

A real 1 mbps CONSISTENCY is enough for me. What’s the use of 4/8/12mbps connection if it loads youtube/vimeo videos like dial-up.

How about remove the MSF and just start charging by the bucket. When users reach the given cap, thats the only time they will be charge for the service.

If they want to go to that price range; which doesn’t fulfill the objective of providing cheaper internet to everybody. Then just charge us as I said above.

My comment got caught by the spam thingy. Tsk. That is why I prefer recapcha auth.

how about for prepaid subscribers? Telcos/ISP should also offer this to prepaid no just for postpaid..

I agree with Mr. A. Drop the MSF. You pay only for what you use. Say P100 per 1.5GB of data usage. That way, if the connection is crappy, I can forego thinking I’ll be paying less by the end of the month.

@domob

You’re the one failing

Hands-down Unlimited pa rin ang best option, given the track record of Telcos/ISPs internet bandwidth speed, I doubt they can consistently provide 4Mbps or higher speed. Ang mangyayari niyan, naka-cap ka na as 15GB, ang bagal pa … :)

And like Mr.A and TopMace, it might be a better offer if Telcos drop the MSF and just bill users based on usage, they just need to offer a realistic bucket pricing (with consistent speed/connection).

Metering should also be by the minute minimum, by the second sana mas maganda so that users can disconnect if in case they get poor bandwidth speed.

Again and again and again, speed and service is the problem. CIR is not important for consumers and is a huge red herring, a fake out. CIR is only for mission critical stuff. For home use what’s the point of CIR?

When we talk about speed at the consumer level we’re talking about “max burst”, in the local Philippine corporate telco propaganda/marketing jargon. Yes, sky cable offers 12mbps. What is the upload speed? 1mbps :(.

Then where is this 12mbps speed offered? In tiny enclaves, NOT available to the vast majority of the residents in the Metro. I used to own property in one of those enclaves. I didn’t live there full time but I did stay there around a week out of every month and I let my cousins live there full time while they were in school. At that time 6mpbs was the max for skybroadband. I got, maybe, 3-4mbps on average and it was constantly out (far worse even than lousy skycable service).

While PLDT and globe are more or less available everywhere in the Metro, they top out at 3mbps and 2mbps with dial-up like upload speeds. Globe service is horrendous, I negotiated a termination fee so I could drop them.

Speed and service is the problem. All these pricing schemes are games, at best, and scams, at worse. Ways to trick people out of more money for the same lousy service and slow speeds. Offering them costs the telcos NO real money. Not like spending to upgrade the aging telco infrastructure.

If we had a better government, it could be used to leverage against the mega corps to get them to do what needs to be done. However, we are stuck with corruption where such an option, which would’ve never benefited us (it was a government only plan), ended up being used as an attempt to rob us of more money by the former President.

So its up to us and, sadly, we suck. Service and speed requires investment that the telcos don’t want to do. Why should they when we are currently paying exorbitant rates for terrible service and slow speeds? We don’t seem to care either, our bloggers are trying to sell us more payment schemes instead!

So we end up with one of the worse telecom infrastructures in Asia. What else is new? At least we’re ahead of Burma/Myanmar and Cambodia, right?

What if…

You just focus on improving your service?

“Options” is a word abused by many

Let’s see. Soon, this “Option” will become the “Standard” once you let it become an “Option”.

Tapos ang unlimited, magiging 4,000 pesos na at the same speed.

Kawawa talaga tayong mga consumer naloloko na lang palagi

this new scheme of capping and stuff are just a diversion of the real issue. they are just propagandizing something that is impressive so as to cover their rotten service.

yung simpleng sistema nga lang na unlimited nacocongest na system nila given the 1 mbps or so connection na ni sa hinagap ng majority ng subscribers nila eh hindi naranasan, the more pa kaya yung mas matataas na speed. and yun ngang imonitor nga lang nila yung simpleng problems through their customer service eh hindi na nila matugunan the more paka itong scheme kung saan may specific amount of bandwidth?

i also believe na the government specifically the NTC is dumb-playing with regards to this. dapat sineset na ang batas regarding minimum guaranteed speed. masyadong maluwag sila. the telcos had greatly benefited na. greed na ang tawag sa ginagawa nila..

the move for the guaranteed speed should be initiated na, and sigurado subscribers like us will definitely support it.

therefore, let us not support this new scheme. THE TELCOS HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH RESOURCES TO IMPROVE THEIR FACILITIES para hindi magkaron ng CONGESTION. ginagawa lang nila tayong tanga.

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What’s the use of being able to choose between plans if the ISPs can not and will not commit to guaranteeing minimum speeds?

Recalling the previous brouhaha about the bandwidth caps, opposing sides were willing to compromise as long as ISPs can and will guarantee minimum speeds.

Hmmm. Globe anus.

They can’t guarantee the minimum speed because users are sharing the bandwidth.

I’ve tried plug-its, DSL, prepaids, postpaids, and now using leased line (E1) ng smart (not personal ha. for the company im currently connected).

A 2mbps E1 sa smart would cost between $1500 to $2k. Globe is offering it a bit cheaper, around $900 $1.3k per month.

Sa leased line, sayo ang mundo. walang cap, wala silang pakialam sayo.

I want to insert this bucket into my anus, seriously

how i wish they can make the use of internet like our electricity bills or like the home gas bills in the US, take all you want

What’s wrong with this blogger trying to push through bucket internet plans here in the Philippines?

MR. YOU GOT TECH, our country is lucky to have internet service providers who offer unlimited internet plans. YOU HAVE NO IDEA kung anu-ano ang pasakit na dala ng bucket data plan.

Now let me GIVE YOU SOME.

Take for example, here in the United States, AT&T offers $80 (about P3200) plan for 5gb of data transfer, THAT IS INCLUDING UPLOAD TRANSFERS. The bandwidth speed differs and ranges from 1-3mb/s which is a good side of this.

Let’s say, you’re an avid YouTube watcher, or one who uses Netflix and the likes. These will all eat up your monthly allowance, sa download palang. Gaming consoles (PS3, X360) takes up a lot of upload bandwidth. An anti-virus update’s file size can take up to 1mb, now do the math if you set it up to update every hour. AND JUST LIKE YOU, web hosts there in our country will suffer.

There are too many downsides, I tell you. Would you pay for $80 just for downloading 4 DVD rips from utorrent? How about $80 just for 2 whole days of Skyping? Or $80 exclusively for serving your blog’s visitors for 2 weeks?

THE ADVERTISEMENTS AND REBATES are what you gotta ask to get fixed. P1000 for 512Kbps doesn’t sound bad at all.

I’m asking you to please, please, please, stop writing about bucket pricing’s advantages. Or at least, post but include the disadvantages. You have a big voice in the tech industry. Heck, even Globe and Smart are trying to implement the method after your posts. Please stop this now or you’ll become the root of our nation’s possible additional burden.

Me, I am really okay with data CAP’s. But hopefully without restrictions on use. I have a Smart Gold Data Plan capped at 1.5GB after which you throttle down.

But the use of certain applications might result in having to pay Php10 per 30 minutes. In fairness to Smart Communications, they have been helping identify the cause of the additional data charges.

But with 250,000 Android apps and 300,000 iPhone apps, if I download something new I feel like I am left guessing which applications I can and cannot use without being charged additional data charges.

2mbps SDSL from Eastern telecom is $700 a month.
2mbps leased line from Digitel is $900 a month.
2mbps leased line from PLDT is $1200 a month.

At least this is what we’re paying at our office.

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Time: 27/02/2011 02:17:09

To telcos, just offer us higher mbps in an affordable price, period. I dont care regards to bucket pricing.

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