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Cherry Mobile Candy, Candy Chat: Cheapest Androids

Name: Cherry Mobile Candy, Candy Chat: Cheapest Androids
Brand: Cherry
Rating: 4.2 (1 reviews)

Abe Olandres November 11, 2011 · 1 min read

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Cosmic Technologies (Cherry Mobile) is once again challenging the Android market by introducing the cheapest Android handsets yet — the Cherry Mobile Candy and Candy Chat — at Php3,699.

These units are really cheap so we shouldn’t expect a lot from them. I guess the only reason for introducing them is that more folks can now afford to buy an Android smartphone.

On the other hand, these are dual-SIM phones too.

Cherry Mobile Candy specs:
2.8″ resistive screen @ 240×320 pixels
Dual-SIM, Dual-standby
MediaTek 416MHz processor
256MB ROM
128MB RAM
up to 16GB via microSD
WiFi 802.11 b/g
GPRS/EDGE
Bluetooth 2.1
1.3MP camera
FM radio
Android Froyo 2.2
Retail price: Php3,699

Cherry Mobile Candy Chat specs:
2.4″ resistive screen @ 240×320 pixels
Full qwerty keypad
Dual-SIM, Dual-standby
MediaTek 416MHz processor
256MB ROM
128MB RAM
up to 16GB via microSD
WiFi 802.11 b/g
GPRS/EDGE
Bluetooth 2.1
1.3MP camera
FM radio
Android Froyo 2.2
Retail price: Php3,699

Note: Photos to follow. Still looking for a CD drive to copy the press materials.

What Cherry Mobile did here was take their really affordable handsets and instead of putting the usual dumb-phone OS (those Java-type operating systems), they opted for the more popular one and installed Android in them.

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186 Comments

nics · 14 years ago

nakakapag wi-fi ako sa candy stable naman siya. wala pa naman problema. Overall, maganda yung phone para sa mga nag hahanap ng murang android. Talagang ito yung magiging “intro” mo sa android world. may china phone nga ako tumagal ng 4 years, napamana ko pa sa kapatid ko. Nasa gumagamit yan guys. Peace out. :D

mrflyback · 14 years ago

nics,

have u tried using skype on ur candy? planning to buy one for my mom para mas mura intl calls :D feedback naman po please.

thanks in advance

nics · 14 years ago

anu ba yan? madaling masira ang gamit kapag hindi masinop ang gumagamit.. kahit anung gadget naman basta hindi ka marunong mag alaga, eh madaling masira. Nasa gumagamit yan minsan kung paano niya aalagaan mga gamit niya. Meron akong Cherry Mobile Candy. Masaya naman ako sa performance. I can install apps and games galing sa market at kahit galing sa black market. Kung talagang android fan kayo eh dapat alam niyo kung paanu ioptimized yung mga phone niyo.

meguel · 14 years ago

cherry mobile is not a Philippine mobile…. china phone din ito…. nilagyan lang ng bandera natin para mabenta dito sa pinas

june · 14 years ago

connected na ako sa wifi pero hindi ako makakanet kahit fb or youtube ayaw gumana.. pwede po pa help..

thanks a lot..

CM candy user po

glenda sandoval · 14 years ago

meron ako cherry mobile nabili 4000 T20 ang problema after 1 month nablackout nalang ng kusa ganyan ba talaga mga products ng cherry mobile,my waranty nga sa binilhan ko gusto ako mismo pupunta sa service center ng cherry eh sa pamasahe lang talo na ako.mauubos nalang panahon ng waranty ng T20 cherry mobile ko di pa nagagawa..dapat pag alam nyo na di quality ang products nyo wag nyo na ebenta sa tao kapwa pinoy lang tayo naglolokohan pa.kainis talaga ang cherry mobile ko walang kwenta gumagawa ng fone panay lang sila paasa at abala pa sa akin at gastos pamasahe tuwing babalikan ko till now wala pa rin 1 month na sa service center,Hoy Gising

paulo · 14 years ago

ganyan din saken. tapos after mga 1 month mag white screen na yan after 1 or 2 days na mag oopen. hmpf!

paulo · 14 years ago

ganyan din saken. tapos after mga 1 month mag white screen na yan after 1 or 2 days d na mag oopen. hmpf!

Adam · 14 years ago

Agree ako pero most of the time yung brand name na lang din yung binabayaran pero syempre nandun na din kasi yung assurance na ok yung product.

Joyscope · 14 years ago

you know guys the difference between cherry mobile to branded is how it was designed, ang binabayaran natin ay yung workmanship ng product.

May kanya kanyang trade secret mga manufacturers kahit China lahat galing, ang nagdesign ng mga yan either Americans or Japanese sa mga Branded at mga Chinese sa mga Entry Level na brands, na kung minsan madaming patent ang nasasagasaan na di nila binabayaran.

Think also of the quality of the mobile phone kung gaano siya magtatagal sa price tag niya. The more expensive, the more robust hardware it has.

Adam · 15 years ago

Wag na kasi magcomment ng mga pang iinsulto sa low-end phones kanya kanya lang yan respeto lang.

Jason · 15 years ago

Guys, kaya nga! Ang mga kilalang brands sa China like Huawei, TCL, Lenovo, etc. ay may quality! Please don’t blame me.

dvancleef · 15 years ago

The Chat’s qwerty makes up for the weakest spec point (small resistive display). Given not to have to deal with typing onto a microscopic resistive softkey my stress level with this level of phone would be a lot lower. The non-qwerty Candy is total fail from the start though. 2.8″ QVGA screens are only barely tolerable if they’re capacitive.

reden · 15 years ago

i agree with jomar regarding contacts! kaya lang sana hindi to katulad nung nagamit kong cherry mobile dati, sakit sa tenga kapag medyo matagal mo ginamit pang tawag kaya napilitan akong mag dual sim ng samsung, ayun mas malinaw tawag at di ganun kainit…

sa ganyang specs medyo ok na rin for basic android stuffs like those to do lists apps, camera apps (although di ako sigurado dito) baka nga mas malakas pa to sa ginagamit kong telepono ngayon eh hehe, 160MB lang kase memory nung sa akin. (galaxy spica). sana nilagyan nila ng gps, malamang magiging mabili sa mga siklista at runner kung may gps to para malagyan ng endomondo. so gps tapos backup battery sa cdr king para tumagal sa ride…

duga · 15 years ago

actually halos naman na lahat gawa sa china, ang question na lang ngayon eh yung sa quality. ewan ba, yung mga kaparehong model ng mga cp ng cherry mobile sa ibang bansa base sa mga forum magaganda quality, nagtataka lang ako yung mga nakukuha ng Cherry Mobile madaling masira. Naiisip ko tuloy, malamang yung mga rejected units ang kinukuha ng Cherry Mobile at inaayos na lang nila.

jomar · 15 years ago

Dual SIM : Check
Android : Check
EDGE / GPRS : Check
Qwerty : Check
Google Sync : Hopefully Check

Already have a better Android phone, just want another dual SIM phone that I will use for call/text. The Android/Qwerty/EDGE is definitely a major plus for me. At last I can finally sync my contacts on all my phones without too much of a hassle. At that price point, you just cant expect too much form it. I just hope that the battery life is acceptable :D

ambo · 15 years ago

@Jason bakit nyo ba minamaliit ang china? Alam nyo ba na sa China umutang ng pera ang US para lang ma save sila sa recession? At alam nyo ba na ung ZTE ng kasama sa scandal dati ay gumagawa na ng cellphone na ZTE blade at skate na pang international market? Huawei din may ideos na, may tablet pa.

juankolog · 15 years ago

hindi naman cherry mobile ang gumagawa ng mga cellphone nila na andoid, pinapalitan lang nila ng pangalan ung unit, kung mag hahanap kayo sa mga site at meron kayo mkikita ka katulad na unit, from gigabyte company.. ung ibang pinoy simple lang, ma china phone pa yan basta touch screen masaya na, meron pa nga mga naka 3310 eh, cellphone ay para sa communication, kung gusto mo mag laro mag PS3 ka, gusto mo malinaw na camera mag DSLR ka, haha… pero dahil sa low buying capacity ng market, mababang presyo at specs ang na ooffer satin, warranty at customer service, usability and quality ng product yan pinaka importante.. :D

juankolog · 15 years ago

*android mali pala type ko ahaha

Zivis Inc. · 15 years ago

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aj · 15 years ago

wala bang Pilipino d2? Minamaliit nyo ung cherry mobile…eh ung specs na tinutukoy pwede nyo eh pampabulaklak lang ng paggamit sa isang cell phone-cum-semi-computer like gadget…mabagal man yan…magagamit mo pa rin, paano uunlan PH phones eh kung maka-comment kayo parang ibabagsak nyo ung economy natin…

jason · 15 years ago

Why they hate CM? Because of its quality. Sabi nila, madali daw masira dahil halos lahat ng parts, GALING PANG CHINA.

duga · 15 years ago

hindi sa minamaliit ang cherry mobile, concern lang ako sa mga kapwa ko Pilipino na nagsisikap para lang makabili ng cellphone. hahayaan lang ba nating mapunta sa wala ang kanilang pera? kilala ang cherry mobile sa panloloko ng mga buyers nila, pagnasira hindi ka na nila kilala, ni walang quality check ang mga products. hindi lahat ng Filipino company marunong magmalasakit sa kapwa nila Pilipino at isa dito ang Cherry Mobile.

duga · 15 years ago

supurtahan ang mga karapatdapat ng Filipino company, at i-boycott ang mga hindi dapat. ayusin muna ng cherry mobile quality ng mga produkto nila.

ambo · 15 years ago

Kahit sa ibang bansa meron ding nagtitipid, meron ding barat, mas lalo na di2 sa pinas. Kaya nga gumagawa ng smartphones ang cherry mobile kc un ang uso ngayon, at hindi lahat ng pinoy mkkbili ng samsung nexus or htc mozart. Kung budget phone ang hanap mo eh meron ang cherry mobile nun, madami, at hindi naman kulelalat pagdating sa specs, merong Magnum 2x ang CM, dual processor yan, at nasa 15k lng, meron Magnum HD, 1Ghz processor yan, napakalakas na nyan. Kung bbili k ng high end branded smatphones na dual proce sigurado butas bulsa mo. Kaya binibenta nla yan ng mura dahil kaya ng pinoy bilhin, halata mang puro plastic ang labas eh kaya namang lumaban sa ibang brands ang specs. Dapat proud kayo sa CM kc kahit na mura at least may ibubuga, kahit na mukhang madaling masira eh lagyan mo na lng jelly case para hindi masira kapag na laglag. Nasa pag iingat parin ng may-ari ang sukatan.

Jaja · 15 years ago

Jason, for your information, sa China talaga manufacture nila, pati na rin ang iba pang international brands ay sa Chinese manufacturers naka salalay.

duga · 15 years ago

@aj, yup nasa gumagamit din ang pagiingat, pero ang mga products kasi ng cherry mobile kadalasan ang sira eh software, kabibili mo lang tapos paguwi mo at magamit ng saglit malalaman mong ang dami palang bugs (ex. di nakakarecieve ng text yung isang sim card, naghahang, nagrereset, nawawala mga text, yung wifi di gumagana, etc). ang masama pa nito pag ibinalik mo di na nila papalitan, ipapadala daw sa service center nila at maghihintay ka ng sobrang tagal para lang maayos sa sobrang dami ng bulok na cp na binenta nila. magsearch ka sa google malalaman mo kung gaano kadami ang nagrereklamo sa mga products ng cherry mobile. ang cherry mobile pinoy company nga, pero nanloloko naman at nanggugulang sa mga kapwa pinoy nila. mas mabuti pang bumili na lang ng produkto ng mga foreign companies.

geogetski666 · 15 years ago

@aj
tingin ko naman madaming pilipino d2 problema lang talaga kahit na mura nga benta ng cherry mobile sa mga na experience ng tao sa phones nila and from personal experience “bulok” and cellphones na tiniotinda nila and wala silang pakialam sa mga bumibili take for example the cherry orbit when they sold them for 50% off price i think after using it for a day they would have known that the firmware of the phone must have a problem XD tanga na lkang siguro di makapansin nun and they still sold them how low can you go yan pa lang panloloko na sa part nila hehe just my 2cents
note : also a victim of the orbit sale XD hehe

Vekou X Aitenshi · 15 years ago

Nice to see the phone is action. May video sa YouTube about sa candy chat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzYiz-6kAkQ from Technoclast

paulo · 14 years ago

marami tlaga bug ng CM, at madali tlaga to masira, kahit tignan nio pa sa sevice centers nila marami kang mkikitang tao dun araw araw. nag try ako paayos ung cp ko cguro halos kadalasan ang sira ung pindutan and nag white screen(katulad nung akin) then pag pnaayos mo aabutin ng 1 motnh kaurat lang .

jonaflormicfren · 15 years ago

It was so nice that there are challenger like Cherry Mobile to produce the cheapest android in the market.

Name: IC DeaDPiPoL · 15 years ago

hope there would be a review of both handset and compared with current entry level phones on the market.

duga · 15 years ago

Another garbage product. Sa mga nagcocoment na this product is for those who cant afford to buy branded na android, please maawa naman kayo sa kanila. kahit 4k lang price nito pera din yun at di napupulot lang. If you want value for your money, magtiis ka muna ng kahit isang buwan pa at bumili ka ng samsung galaxy y, at 6K.

Romar · 15 years ago

Ang baho ng bibig ng isang commentor. -.-“

John Ray Cabrera · 15 years ago

resistive? i’ll pass.

wengweng2003 · 15 years ago

The problem w/ android is that it needs a powerful processor just to make it bearably smooth. Anything under 600mhz will just frustrate you with laggy UI, frequent force closes, unresponsive screens, & phantom taps (like the cm orbit which I threw in a fit techie rage). Low resolution screens will also keep you from most good apps/games in the market. RAM & ROM also affects this OS’ usability.
For people thinking of getting these cheap androids, take it from a fellow fandroid who once sacrificed specs for the price tag, DON’T. You’ll end up wasting 3k, 6k, or 10k. After that, you’ll still need to buy another phone because you threw that piece of crap out of frustration.

glen · 15 years ago

ah so iOS, Windows Mobile, and Symbian are fast on slow processors? Moron!

You want to spend below 10k and want a really smooth user experience and play all graphics and process intensive games?

You are an idiot!

glen · 15 years ago

and you claim you are an android fan and techie yet you dont know how to optimize your android gadget the reason why it is slow.

I have the orbit and it is a good phone when optimized. I have also used android 1.6 devices with.specs lower than.this candy phone and had.tons.of.uses with.it.

You are not a techie person but more of a spoiled brat idiot.

Anonymous user · 15 years ago

Glen, panu mo na-optimize ung orbit mo? Kase parehas lng tyo ng Phone. Gusto ko sana malaman kng panu mo napabilis toh

wengweng2003 · 15 years ago

glen says:

ah so iOS, Windows Mobile, and Symbian are fast on slow processors? Moron!

You want to spend below 10k and want a really smooth user experience and play all graphics and process intensive games?

You are an idiot!

To answer your question glen, yes, the OS’ you mentioned work smoother on lower specd devices. Not to mention the need for software optimization. So far, the smoothest low spec android I’ve tested is the 800mhz galaxy ace (hence my “no to 600mhz & below” opinion). I tried out a couple of Xperias today & was quite happy with how smooth they were (arc, mini). The galaxy note was not as smooth as I had hoped. The homescreen transition animation still had minimal lags. More so when I filled the homescreens w/ widgets. The htc sensation was even worse. My rooted desire hd was way smoother than either dual cores. So I guess you have a point. CPU speed isn’t everything. But it does play a big role.

Oh, another thing, you might want to try keeping your temper in check. It just confirms which of us is the real moron, idiot, spoiled brat :-)

glen · 15 years ago

for the price only 3k+ pesos good value to. Yung specs oo mababa kung i compare mo sa mga 10k.and up phones. At syempre hindi mo pwedeng i install dito at gamitin ang lahat ng android apps and games. Kung merong 10k app and games sa android mga 5k lang dun ang pwede at di.rin.pwede mag install ng marami. Pero yung mga simple apps and games pwedeng pwede dito! Pwede ka maglaro ng chess,word games,scrabble at mga apps na dictionary, alarm clock, memopad . Pwede ka din gumawa o pagawa ng custom apps para sa company nyo like payroll!

The thing is THIS IS A REAL COMPUTER THAT YOU CAN.USE FOR CALLING AND TEXTING NA DUAL SIM PA AND 3000 PESOS LANG!

Al · 15 years ago

Oh sure, a real computer? so what can you do with this? call and text lang? hahaha! Then buy yourself a even more cheaper phone that can do both and with longer battery!

People just don’t get it! Android needs a really powerful specs for it to perform as advertised.

jack · 15 years ago

At P3,699 ANDROID you cant go wrong. most associate android to “If it can play ANGRY BIRDS”… android is so much more than just playing angry birds, meaning you can use the Android for social networking (FB, Twitter, YM, etc) or meesaging apps like Viber, YM…etc. the Android Experience on the social networking side alone is already worth it. I am sure the 416mhz processor would do just fine. but remember at 3,699 you are still getting a Smartphone which has access to thousand of apps, so im sure you can find an app that suits the hardware. Right now for under 4k price range what do you get? hmmm not so smart phones!

Patrick Joshua · 15 years ago

Honestly, I really want this as my secondary phone/wagayway phone when travelling on public utility vehicles :))
I don’t wanna loose my brand new Galaxy Y :D

zd0t · 15 years ago

Ang kailangan sa phone = dapat usable. It doesn’t matter what OS is inside, basta it serves its intended purpose.

But try putting a “smartphone” OS into a phone with “not-smartphone” specs, and see if its usable. 400 Mhz? Resistive touchscreen? 128 MB RAM? Sige try niyo, maiinis lang kayo sa Android phone niyo.

Vekou X Aitenshi · 15 years ago

maiinis ka talaga kung techie ka, kasi alam mo na hindi dapat ganito kabagal ang android experience. pero para sa mga hindi techie (medyo technophobic), hindi nila pansin yun.

anonymous · 15 years ago

Wow! Na-try mo na pala ito? Kalalabas lang daw nito just a few days ago, ah. Review naman. So you’re telling us that based on your personal experience with this phone, we won’t even be able to call & text with it, much less use even only half of the Android features and pre-installed apps?

Do tell, ‘coz we’ve got to report this scam to the DTI, NTC, and/or whichever government/consumer protection agency out there should be concerned.

popoy · 15 years ago

hindi na to masama, mura na to.

Juan · 15 years ago

best entry level android phone is samsung’s galaxy y at 6k, already on gingerbread

Val · 15 years ago

Salute to Cherry Mobile for finding ways to introduce Android to the masses. :)

N1 · 15 years ago

I salute Cherry Mobile for these phones! Isipin mo smart phones to whether they can play angry birds or not, the fact is: these are smart phones!! Kahit nga ang pinakamurang Symbian ay ndi matatapatan price nito eh…

I’d love to try the qwerty one!

camhiliciouz · 15 years ago

WoW!

i find it stupid that there are people who keeps on bringing the efforts of those not so ‘better’ brands to have a piece of the ‘market’.

i agree to those who give such gadgets a chance for a review. (thanks sir Yuga! XD).

Obviously, this kinds of phones may not outrun those of Samsung Androids once nor from other Android carriers, THERE ARE MADE AVAILABLE NOT FOR THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD THE EXPENSIVE ONCE BUT RATHER TO THOSE WHO CAN’T! so hands-off WELL-OFFS!.

i’ll find it exhilarating seeing two people in the mall, a rich one and a tambay (minimum-wage-earner-hardly-afford-3xaday-meal) using the same expensive phones!. o diba, ewan ko lang kung hindi maiinis yung rich one?! XD

anyways, i dont see that it may hurt if i buy my lil’ sibling such gadgets to have the android experience. dahil for sure, its either, mawawala lang nila yung phone or mababasag ang screen, you know kids, they are just so lovable! XD

One question though, sir yuga. given the specs, how many decent game apps can we in stall to still have a decent run? for sure my siblings will be eager to install many.

thanks thanks much.

and PS, to those haters, CHILL!

Name: IC DeaDPiPoL · 15 years ago

despite the low speed I believe it’s workable. I’ve been underclocking my processor from 600 down to 328Mhz and is still functional for regular messaging albeit installing 3rd party launchers and extra widgets will really slow down the phone. The only question is how much memory will it have available off a freshly booted phone. If its 26~60mb then its workable albeit it won’t be able to run Angry Birds decently.

Hope Cherry will release these phones rooted

Sonofa · 15 years ago

Sana maglabas naman silang Alpha Numeric na keypads na Android… para ang extra phone ko updated lagi ang contacts

Anonymous · 15 years ago

Ganito kasi yan. Many (not all) of those ‘haters’ of budget phones that attempt to put the Android experience w/in reach of the masses are afflicted with elitist/exclusivist mentality.

Having paid a small fortune for their high-end phones, they feel entitled to exclusivity. They bristle at the thought of the masses partaking in the Android experience, kahit pa ‘crippled’ lang yung experience.

They’re compelled to belittle & insult these sub-4K phones for not having the same specs, feature set & build quality as their ‘status symbol’ phones that cost them an arm & a leg.

wilde · 15 years ago

Exactly.

In any case, whether a phone costs P100k, at the end of the day, it’s just a phone.

You might “feel better” having an expensive phone, but that does not mean that you are a better person.

Vekou X Aitenshi · 15 years ago

Yan dapat ang mga cellphone ng mga sosyal na nagloload!! Kung may GPS yan, I’m sold! Kung sa tibay rin lang naman, alam naman nating hindi yan ganun katibay, pero nasa gumagamit din yan. Kung maingat lang yung gumagamit, tatagal yan ng ilang taon. Wag lang magffluctuate ang kuryente habang nagcha-charge…

Burt · 15 years ago

wow! very affordable na ang mga android phones! kudos to cherry!

Jonah · 15 years ago

Is this already available in Cebu City?

Joyce · 15 years ago

I wonder kung kaya ng hardware ang android. If it still runs fast enough I might get one just for app testing purposes.

kuyog · 15 years ago

I’ve used shanzai tablets with lower specs than these. At the price, I think I’ll get a Candy Chat to replace my aging SE P1i.

Totem · 15 years ago

Dami namang ewan sa article na to.. Ayan nga oh..
“These units are really cheap so we shouldnâ€™t expect a lot from them. I guess the only reason for introducing them is that more folks can now afford to buy an Android smartphone.”

So if you have the money to buy a higher-end phone sold by famous brands, then go ahead buy it. Don’t talk trash about other cellphone brands. Pinoy talaga.. Colonial mentality much??

garz · 15 years ago

Very well said. Palibhasa may mga higher-end android phones..

Kuyog · 15 years ago

^^ I agree. To the nay-sayers: nobody is forcing you to buy or use these phones. If you can afford to get a high-end phone, good for you. But don’t hate a low end phone just because it may not have the power or features that you need. Some people (like me) would be more that happy to use these phones for a variety of reasons (budget, no need for advanced features, etc.) Please try to not be so juvenile next time.

Water · 15 years ago

I agree with you sir.

Para dun sa mga nag “haters” ng low-end mobile phones. Oo nga naman, sari-sariling trip lang yan. Buti nga Cherry Mobile nag-lalabas ng murang android phones e. At least yung mga gipit sa budget may chance na sila para mag Android.

Sir Yuga, I appreciate that you take the time to write articles about these kind of phones. More power!

dispose · 15 years ago

disposables

Octopus · 15 years ago

I’ve been looking for a Dual sim phone with 3G, preferably GPS running on Windows mobile 6.5 or 7.Anyone know where I can pick one up or have an alternative suggestion ?

Marco · 15 years ago

Anong itsura ng phone? :)

Barf · 15 years ago

next please!

kuyog · 15 years ago

This is still faster than the generic android tablets. I, for one, would like to have a cheap android qwerty phone.

john · 15 years ago

MediaTek 416MHz processor and 128mb ram? lol, pangtext lang to.. malag pa.. mag dump phone ka nalang

grail0375 · 15 years ago

416mhz processor? these are really old models. Try to compare the mobile phones from china at http://www.solomobi.com you’ll find a lot of these similar spec. android phones.

Pwede na siguro for basic apps, but will definitely slow you down when you start using newer/updated apps from the android market. Sir, does this have GPS?? There are a few android units scattered around Divisoria and Quiapo that have the same specs.